Maybe this is why Martin hasn't finished the series yet. He's made the story so incredibly complex with so many subplots he can't figure out how to tie them all together in a cohesive manner anymore.
I thought this before I read the books. Now I think he just can’t bear to do some of the things his plots require to his beloved children. There is no doubt in my mind that everything that made the edit into the novels is necessary and purposeful.
@Myname Jeff he did recently say he's about 2/3rds done with the book. As a writer myself, that is a textbook example of "get off my back publisher" speak, but I have high hopes
He's a gardener and his garden has become so beautifully lush and overgrown that its going to take quite a while to trim down. Praying to the 7, R'hllor, the Many-Face God, the Weirwoods, the Drowned God and the God of Tits and Whine that he can finish WoW in the next 3-4 years.
In the show, Oberyn has 8 too. Or atleast he used to before D&D forgot. He told Cersei that he had 8 daughters back in S04. But I guess D&D forgot, so now he only has 3
Seriously, even a throwaway line from Ellaria saying she'd sent the youngest four away to keep them safe while she and the sand reptiles overthrew Doran, or how Sarella was in Oldtown...They made Tyene her kid, so it fudged the birth order, but they could always have her be the fourth oldest instead of third, the eldest of Ellaria's five kids
Having witnessed how a few of my favorite shows, channels, playlists, etc go down in quality, quantity, accuracy, and/or have talent replaced by employees, I have become increasingly appreciative of you and all you do. The editing and tone and quality of these videos as well as the prolific work in zzz. Sadly, my family situation is keeping me from financial contribution, but I wanted to share my ongoing and sincere appreciation.
I'm the only who doesn't get how some people think Euron and Daario are the same person? Is like they forgot that one of the most charateristic features of Euron is the fact that he only has one eye, or at least he covers one with an eyepatch.
Great videos indeed. But these theories weren’t created by him, but rather represented by them from the asoiaf subreddit or Westeros.org. Nonetheless, his representations are spectacular and as many book readers discuss these things on the forums, he does a great job at explaining them simply for everyone else.
@bighand69 I actually only started reading the books because I hated season 7, I knew that the show could no longer tell a good story. People didn't like season 8 because it was super bad, the story made no sense, the lines were ridiculous and the characters were acting like robots. Theorizing has nothing to do with it.
I think its the kind of details you pick up on a second or third read, once you're accustomed with the main characters and the more prominent storylines, its easier to pick up on the smaller plots and secrets that are hidden through the words
I actually read the books reaaallyyy carefully and yet I never heard of Sallera as well haha. I mean it's impossible to keep track with all those names and houses. But I will read them all again
This is why the book series is amazing and will never be finished. Even this minor character has a detailed, well defined background and arcs available to his/her story that will effect the whole plot. Weaving all of these threads together should take 10 years, it's sad that we probably won't see the end of this book series. Thanks for the vid
Looking back at my idiotic comment after 2 years... all i have to say is -FUCK D&D and fuck the last season or the last 2-3 seasons fuck em all what a waste
@Alt Shift X "Then Euron lifted a great horn to his lips and blew, and dragons and krakens and SPHINXES came at his command and bowed before him." you missed that one, my friend ;)
That's because Dorne was the only kingdom that the Targaryens FAILED to conquer. When they tried, Rhaenys died, her dragon died, a lot of Targ kings died, lords died, and so go on. Dorne would only become part of the Targaryen reign after Daeron II united the houses of Martell and Targaryen by marrying the Prince's daughter, and marrying his sister (Called Princess Daenerys Targaryen) to the eldest Martell son.
Alegost1 yep. The Targaryens let the Dornish continue using their own titles when they bent the knee. And the Martells are very proud of being Princes/Princesses. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if she meant “I am no Lord’s son... I’M A PRINCE’S DAUGHTER!”
Dude I really love your book breakdowns. I’ve read the series through like three times now but these breakdowns really help put a lot in perspective. Especially this video I’ve never even picked up on this Sarila connection. But you’re not overbearing with the connectivity of like words being used and things like that that some of these other book breakdowns do. You’re very clear. Thank you so much man, you really broaden the scope of the world and help amplify my experience
I really love that a badass like Oberyn had only daughters. I know that GRRM is just getting his feminist rocks off, but in the process, he made some really interesting characters.
Hi. Great videos. Can you please make a video on crypts of winterfell? There’s something there. We know Jon has dreams of crypts and Abel(Mance) Is interested in the crypts and there are old stories about crypts as told by old nan. Can you please make a video of it? Thank you!
That glass candle thing is so cool. When it lit due to the dragons I would have thought that would have been the sort of cool iconic spectacle that would have been perfect for the TV show. Shame they didn't add it in, they could of arranged the story any which way to add it in they didn't have to use Alleras. The best ending for me would be the White Watchers winning and then it was shown that the Night King was Azor Ahai. Which makes zero sense, but i'd love it!
This would have been cool, to twist the human perception that we are always the default good guys who are the subjects of all the prophecy and destiny. To turn it around and this great hero is actually the unknowable force marching on them from the north?? Idk how that could work, like maybe azor ahai married into the walkers for peace and for some reason is marching them back now? Whatever reason the Others are marching to begin with.
I am happy you noted why Aemon would mention the Sphinx, it always perplexed me as to why he would know or care about Alleras, but maybe it is not Alleras, but Jon. Kudos on the video!
The sphinx represents the evolution of man: from animalistic to a higher spiritual form, or so some say, and is also the spiritual guardian of the mysteries of nature.
Hey Alt, always like your videos. How about doing a video on the Night's Watch? More specifically why is it called the Night's Watch. "Night's" is a possessive adjective meaning that the Watch belongs to the night, not that they watch the night. Feels like there is something else going on there at the Wall...
Ahh the books...where Dorne is my favourite faction and get shit done. Ties to West and East, academics and warriors. All finally going to work together infiltrating Sparrows, Small Council, Aegon's Court and get revenge. As someone who likes both Alex Siddig and rates Doran Martell as one of the best characters....fuck D and D.
@The Wayfarer Exactly! I'm always completely befuddled when incels moan about the show being "feminist" when they turned all the female characters into bouncing titty'ed whores, stupid shrieking harpies, or one-dimensional "evil hot bitch" tropes. Oh, and let's not forget the disgusting "rape the hot teenage Sansa to give her motivation and a plotline". Seriously? And they did the Sand Snakes and Arianne real dirty. Real, distinct women each with their own talents and flaws. Masculine women, feminine women, warrior women, scholarly women. What does the show give us? "Ooh, we're so mad and evil and stupid, let's kill children. Bronn, you want this bad girl poosay? Aren't we sooo tough?"
@Andrew - Prince Doran wasn't all planning. In ADWD he says that people blamed him for his latency while, in reality, he was "the grass that conceals the viper until its strikes." In other words, he feigned importance and let the doing to Oberyn so that they could conceal their real plans.
Things is the Dornish seem the most intriguing but they fail at every one of their attempts to play to game of thrones (Quentyn, Arianne's plot to crown Myrcella etc..) they only appear badass and Doran is an idiot.
Alexander siddig played a villian character Ra's in gotham, and he did well. In game of thrones they could have included the secret plan of ally, this would have been well.
I love these videos. I read the books so long ago, they are a good reminder. But also, you always bring up some really interesting points and theories.
@AeneasGemini False. Dorne doesn't pay taxes and they are exempt from a few of the laws of the 7 kingdoms. This is why so many lords and petty lords hate Dorne. It also helped to fuel the first Blackfyre Rebellion. Lords believed Dorne was treated better. And they were.
After watching this episode, I went back to watch the Faceless Men video, and in the Winds sample chapter, there’s mention of a sphinx and that a dragon egg might have been used to pay for the assassination of Balon. So maybe that ties into what Aegon was talking about too?
ALSO the Ironborn are amazing in the books, but they got it all fucked up on the show. I'm glad they changed the name of Theon's sister on the show because she is nothing like the character from the books. Asha is probably my second favorite character behind Tyrion in the books, and she is just so boring on the show. The Kingsmoot is joke on the show. Euron just admits to killing his brother? Did the writers not know that kinslaying is one of the worst things you can do in this world. Hell, that's the whole reason Victarian hasn't killed Euron for making him kill his wife in the books. Dorne and the Ironborn is why I love A Feast For Crows so much, and the show just shit the bed with both.
Watching your videos like this about things completely left out of the show makes me hope that the other two books are coming sooner rather than never.
in Book 1 someone(catelyn i think) describes Theon's smile as if he knows a secret joke as wellis there a chance this is intentional by GRRM, or he justlikes that phrase, despite them having 2 entire books between them
Great video. Thanks. I just thought about the dead and animated dragon. What if Jon can subdue that dragon since he was also dead and brought back to life? Because without it, there is no 3 heads to Targaryen dragon.
Thanks for this - so many details here that I’ve either overlooked or forgotten. Looks as though I’m going to have to read the books again before TWOW.
With Winds of Winter hopefully coming soon, I'd love to see a refresher video , a synopsis of the previous book(s) and what to expect in the continuing storyline, I personally need a refresher, it's been so long since I read ADWD. THANKS
Alt Shift X , Respect to your passion! :) Thank you for coming with in-depth video every-time with so much intricacies - no one else on the X-vid ever comes with!
I was wondering earlier what my favorite TV show/movie series/internet series might be. I think this might be it, followed by the "abridged reading" of "A Game of Thrones" that you did. And sometimes, I really wonder how George Martin thinks of all of this. What's it like in that brain of his?
I'm really sad that I've watched all of your videos. I really wish I could erase them from my memory so I could enjoy all of them anew. Your videos are one of the reasons I love asoiaf so much. Great work, as always!
I think spending a little time going over the real-world mythology of the Sphinx may have been beneficial to this video. For example, according to Wikipedia, "[The Sphinx] is mythicized as treacherous and merciless, and will kill and eat those who cannot answer her **riddle**." I can't say exactly how to fit this in (I've only spent 30 seconds reading about Sphinx's lol), but it seems like this little fact alone could offer some insight.
you know i read the books years ago and I missed all of this stuff. thanks to your videos I think I'll be a little better at remembering all of this stuff when I finally get around to reading them again..
1:40 actually in the show oberon does have 8 daughters, he mentions it to cercei at one point, It's just that only 3 of them become important in the story.
Does anybody else think that Jon secretly being the "rightful king" kinda contradicts one of the story's major themes? The whole point of the series is that feudalism and hereditary rule is a terrible system, and it hurts _everyone._
Would love to see a discussion of the Howland Reed = Ser Shadrich/The Mad Mouse theory, and maybe even the Harrenhal Conspiracy theory, especially the discussion of why Ethan Glover was the only Northener to be released from the Red Keep after Rickard and Brandon's death!
There is also an interesting theory detailed in the Order of the Greenland that Shae is actually Sarella Sand. x-vid.net/video/eoKSxuDJYk0/video.html Would love to hear your take on that theory as well!!
I hadn't even thought about how Sarella is going to fit into Euron's upcoming apocalyptic fuckery. Speaking of, are you going to do a video about Euron specifically without a direct focus on any theories about how he relates to other characters? In the Daario video you talk about the correlations between Euron and Daario, and I would argue the connection between the two is superficial at best, but on purpose: Euron is meant to be the future representation of what the temptation of violence meant to Dany in ADWD, while Euron will be in contrast with Jon, who doesn't want to wreak cataclysmic destruction on Westeros (until his R'hllor resurrection, as far as we know). Now you talk about Euron's planned massive blood sacrifice in the Reach, and in your Bloodraven video you make references to the connection between Bloodraven and Euron. Pllleeeeaaaase do a video about Euron himself! He's probably my favorite ASOIAF villain and I'd love to see you compile all his theories in one place.
I'm amazed time and again, that these thing's didn't catch my eye when I read the books. o_O Your channel is diamonds! Kudos to you and a big thank you for stimulating my mind.
Great job done. I like your stuffs bcos you do present things with least personal emotion/bias attached, like the way Preston does nowadays. He hates TV so much / is being so arrogant = I know it all you all are stupid.... and it shows. You are presenting things in more objective ways so viewers can get unbias info they need to know and further contemplate and picture things out by themselves, without having to hear Unhappiness / Superior stories... full of themselves.
@jwc7215 seriously, like they absolutely Knew that everyone who's read the books would see the single quote they take from poor Quentyn and be like "damn you really had to do him like that"
Another fantastic video Alt Shift X! I adore your content. I was blown away that the art used in his video was fan contributed, insanely talented they are.
The Illustrations are impressive..I like the symbolism of the Sphinxes in Jon and Danny ..The Sphinx in the Greek Mythology ..in the myth of Oedipus especially is the symbol of wisdom ..Oedipus in the myth defeated the Sphinx [she was a monster with a humans face/body half and half lion ..but a very intelligent one because she challenged every human who wanted to defeat her .to solve enigmas] W hen she asked him what thing is walking in the morning with no feet ,with two in the midday and with 3 in the evening?Oedipus answered''the Human ''..''why'' she asked him?..he answered''the human is first a baby and crawls[the morning of every human life],then grows up and walks in his two feet[the midday of every human life] and in the end when its old of his life with a cane [3 feet][the evening of every human life]..and so Oedipus defeated the Sphinx[]and she commit suicide falling from her rock ..Sarella [or Alleras ]is the embodiment of this monster in GOT ..she is enigmatic and she tries to find the book of the Dragons so to hurt Danny[she things Danny is responsible for Quentins death] to kill her dragons ...along with Jaqen there in the Citadel ..Im wondering if Sam or someone else will stop her..someone smarter than her
That seems too obvious for GRRM to just spell the name backwards. That's some Scooby Doo villain thing. I like the theory that Serella is Shae and that Oberyn helped place her near the Lannisters. If you think Tywin was poisoned, then Serrlla Shae was in the perfect position to do that. Her father taught her poison craft while in oldtown perhaps which explains her love for it. Share could be summer islander and not have brown skin because some Ryonish women settled on a summer isle according to the world of ice and fire. She's the right age. The only hang up for me is I'm sure Qyburn is an agent of Dorne as well. He should have recognized Shae at court and would have informed dorne of her death so why do the Martells speak of Serella as if she lives? That's what is frustrating and engrossing about GRRM, every theory has a huge flaw to make you second guess.
Once mistake at 1:37 Oberyn still has 8 daughters in the show,we know that from a conversation with Cersei. However I think you mean that we only saw these three daughters
Well, actually, in Tv series Obery still has 8 daughters. He tells Cersei that, when they speak in King's Landing. He's even writing a letter to his daughter Elia in that episode. Here: x-vid.net/video/OZKgxzW4J3o/video.html
In the show, Oberyn has 8 daughters, just as many as in the books. He talks about them with Cersei in season 4. The showrunners just forgot about them in season 5 and onwards...
Um, actually in season 4 Oberyn fully states his paternity to Cersei saying he has 8 daughters (only 4 of them mothered by Elaria). Season 5 confirms those 4 daughters of Oberyn mothered by Elaria in a quote by Doran Martell. Thus the show has 5 remaining Sand Snakes.
I love the prologue in A Feast For Crows, poor Pate just wanted to bang Rosey. I love just reading about day to day life in Westeros. It's such an interesting world. The books are so great, man. All the extra characters, history, magic, and intrigue is why all fans need to read the books. They are much better than the show.
This is all cool, and well put together. I think that Sarella has been carefully planted by Doran as part of a Dornish conspiracy, and is not just there because she loves learning, though. Arianne and the Sand Snakes all have their purpose, at least in the books. My opinion is not so much that she will be against Daenerys because of Quentyn (I believe that Quentyn was set up to fail), but that Doran is casting his lot in with f'Aegon, and with the idea that f'Aegon will need a dragon to conquer the Seven Kingdoms. JMHO, but I think that Sarella has to figure out what to do with a dragon. Marwyn is Doran's brother-in-law, or something like that (someone will correct me, I'm sure), so I am skeptical that Marwyn is coming to "help" Daenerys. I think they are trying to steal a dragon, which isn't for the faint of heart or the clueless. Sarella may want access to the glass candle, Marwyn, and the "Death of Dragons" (as do the Faceless Men). I think that it's all part of a dragon-related, magic manipulating race that will hinder Daenerys long before she can set her sights on Westeros.
Alt shift, have you ever thought of doing other book series as well? not that i don't like your videos on ASOIAF, but ive been reading A Stormlight Archive and id love to see videos on that series.
Great vid... Check out some of the info on her actually being Shae.. Pretty good stuff too.. Gunna love to see how some of this stuff plays out in WoW.. if this is one that comes to light..
Great video alt, you're the tops! But why do they never explain how Jon Snow is a legitimate full-blood Targaryen - with dark hair? In the books they're all blond, and by that i mean EVERY.SINGLE. TARGARYEN. is BLONDE! The ones that always bear dark haired babies are Barratheons, not Starks...
I think Sarella = Alleras may be a bit too easy. Someone (Maybe Preston Jacobs? I'm not sure) mentioned that she may be Shae and it is an interesting theory.
What if she's Quaithe? She speaks in riddles who Daenerys is sick off in aDwD. Quaithe must have access to a glass candle. Notice that until A Storm of Swords she had to physically be there to speak to Daenerys, but then the glass candles started burning and she joined the Citadel.
How sure are you that Sarella isn't working for Doran? Given that the only 'proof' that she isn't working for him is quite possibly a lie from Doran to Arianne. Doran lied a lot to both of his own kids which is a clear pattern and I believe that each sand snake will have a role to play in his Masterplan. Or do you think all of the sand snakes were included into the story for a different reason? It's probably faulty logic from my part but I cant think of another reason.
I'm still just starting to watch this. But wouldn't you say Alleras/Serella was the most flat out giveaway easy theory among every character ever? I mean, he's briefed in THE PROLOGUE, THE VERY LAST chapter mentions there's a riddle about him, then in THE APPENDIX, we meet him again! GRRM has really lost his touch with this one... Unless... 🤔
I wonder if Sarella is aware of any Maester Conspiracy? If so she could of exposed it up until a ASOS by telling her dad, unless (crazy theory here) Doran Martell's plan involves the Maesters.
in the tv series he has 8 daughters as well though we only see 3. he tells this to cersei when she ask him to take the ship to dorn. and he says that one of them is named after his sister.
I have the theory that Jaqen wants to learn how to hatch a dragon egg via the book in the citadel. I believe the faceless men have one egg. How did they get one? Euron gave them one. As in payment for killing his brother Balon. Remember he´s impious but he really believes in kinslaying as a sacred crime and an insult to the gods, remember that we know a faceless men is really really really expensive and remember Euron said he had one but he throw it to the sea in a moment of anger, which I believe is a lie. He exchanged it for the services of a faceless men.
Bloodraven is not the 3 Eyed Crow. Brynden even reacts with complete confusion when Bran asks him if he is the 3EC. It's most likely the Great Other manipulating Bran, as we have already heard has also happened to Euron "CROWS"-Eye and Sweet Robin. Crows are not Ravens ya big boob
There's also mention of a sphinx (which might be alleras) in twow which you happen to directly quote in an old video: x-vid.net/video/CfkFzpktyVk/video.html
Sarella can “obviously” be shae That’s the major issue with most content makers, always making assertions and assuming it’s fact when grrms universe is full of secrets that can’t be easily sniffed out and full of misdirections
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Maybe this is why Martin hasn't finished the series yet. He's made the story so incredibly complex with so many subplots he can't figure out how to tie them all together in a cohesive manner anymore.
No shit lol
I thought this before I read the books. Now I think he just can’t bear to do some of the things his plots require to his beloved children. There is no doubt in my mind that everything that made the edit into the novels is necessary and purposeful.
This has to be it.
@Myname Jeff he did recently say he's about 2/3rds done with the book. As a writer myself, that is a textbook example of "get off my back publisher" speak, but I have high hopes
He's a gardener and his garden has become so beautifully lush and overgrown that its going to take quite a while to trim down. Praying to the 7, R'hllor, the Many-Face God, the Weirwoods, the Drowned God and the God of Tits and Whine that he can finish WoW in the next 3-4 years.
In the show, Oberyn has 8 too. Or atleast he used to before D&D forgot. He told Cersei that he had 8 daughters back in S04. But I guess D&D forgot, so now he only has 3
Everytime I think they couldn’t have done worse I’m proved wrong
Seriously, even a throwaway line from Ellaria saying she'd sent the youngest four away to keep them safe while she and the sand reptiles overthrew Doran, or how Sarella was in Oldtown...They made Tyene her kid, so it fudged the birth order, but they could always have her be the fourth oldest instead of third, the eldest of Ellaria's five kids
And then he says 7 in season 4 again a few episodes before he gets his head crushed by The mountain 🏔️
"The thing is... We kinda forgot about it."
Why do they have to remember about it tho?
Having witnessed how a few of my favorite shows, channels, playlists, etc go down in quality, quantity, accuracy, and/or have talent replaced by employees, I have become increasingly appreciative of you and all you do. The editing and tone and quality of these videos as well as the prolific work in zzz. Sadly, my family situation is keeping me from financial contribution, but I wanted to share my ongoing and sincere appreciation.
Coldhands, Benjen, Daario, Euron, Jaqen, and Syrio walk into a bar.
He orders a drink.
Also Mance
I'm the only who doesn't get how some people think Euron and Daario are the same person?
Is like they forgot that one of the most charateristic features of Euron is the fact that he only has one eye, or at least he covers one with an eyepatch.
Arthur Dayne!
This is the most insane and entertaining conspiracy I've heard so far
dont forget Pate
Honestly Sam's storyline is one the ones I'm most excited to read in the Winds of Winter. I think he is going to learn a lot of cool details
Actually Oberyn DOES have all 8 daughters in the show, he mentions this to Cersei when they're in the gardens.
@J G 🙀
@alhena11 omg thanks guys I needed that 🤣
@Echo2602 interesting history there 🙀
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@Kyle Ithink the shows says of the three present only one is hers
God i love your videos. really well edited and an amazing way to present and explore the theories and questions on the Game of thrones community
I agree his presentations are really smooth and fun to watch.
@cloud landing i shall correct that now
Great videos indeed. But these theories weren’t created by him, but rather represented by them from the asoiaf subreddit or Westeros.org.
Nonetheless, his representations are spectacular and as many book readers discuss these things on the forums, he does a great job at explaining them simply for everyone else.
Han Solo ya he's top 3 on the subject for sure...
"I am no lord's son"
She is a prince's daughter
I was thinking that Prince was the more important thing
Yup
hans tonra exactly
The plotline in Oldtown is quickly becoming my favorite and most anticipated storyline that I want to see play out in TWOW. I can't wait!
You keep waiting lol
Leave it to Alt Shift X to turn a minor character I've never noticed to one of the most interesting things I've heard all week.
@bighand69 I actually only started reading the books because I hated season 7, I knew that the show could no longer tell a good story. People didn't like season 8 because it was super bad, the story made no sense, the lines were ridiculous and the characters were acting like robots. Theorizing has nothing to do with it.
It is no wonder that many of you did not like the last season you have gone too deep into your own fantasy world.
I think its the kind of details you pick up on a second or third read, once you're accustomed with the main characters and the more prominent storylines, its easier to pick up on the smaller plots and secrets that are hidden through the words
I actually read the books reaaallyyy carefully and yet I never heard of Sallera as well haha. I mean it's impossible to keep track with all those names and houses. But I will read them all again
Tertulio Eustaquio hey man ASOIAF was my guilty reading on the bus when I should have been reading for school. I missed a bunch.
This is why the book series is amazing and will never be finished. Even this minor character has a detailed, well defined background and arcs available to his/her story that will effect the whole plot. Weaving all of these threads together should take 10 years, it's sad that we probably won't see the end of this book series. Thanks for the vid
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At this rate, we’ll be all experts by the time season 8 premieres. Thank you AltShiftX
Looking back at my idiotic comment after 2 years... all i have to say is -FUCK D&D and fuck the last season or the last 2-3 seasons fuck em all what a waste
I've finished watching season 8
They should have used these videos to do season 8
Your a bitch?
Hi! Hindsight here just wanted to let you know that...
I have bad news for you bud
Mandy Finke’s art for Salleras is great. Androgynous enough but also feminine enough to tell she’s a girl. Captures Salleras’ beauty as well.
@Alt Shift X "Then Euron lifted a great horn to his lips and blew, and dragons and krakens and SPHINXES came at his command and bowed before him." you missed that one, my friend ;)
Check out Mandy's deviantart! mafin10.deviantart.com
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Quentyn Martell, the most profound speaker of our time. His famous quote of “Oh.” truly makes my heart race with emotion.
Not a Lord's son, and not a Lord's daughter either... a Prince's daughter!
if you can´t beat ´em join them^^
LMFAO XD Austrian diplomacy in a nutshell
so dorne resisted every attempt of conquest except the austrian kind^^
That's because Dorne was the only kingdom that the Targaryens FAILED to conquer. When they tried, Rhaenys died, her dragon died, a lot of Targ kings died, lords died, and so go on. Dorne would only become part of the Targaryen reign after Daeron II united the houses of Martell and Targaryen by marrying the Prince's daughter, and marrying his sister (Called Princess Daenerys Targaryen) to the eldest Martell son.
Alegost1 yep. The Targaryens let the Dornish continue using their own titles when they bent the knee. And the Martells are very proud of being Princes/Princesses. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if she meant “I am no Lord’s son... I’M A PRINCE’S DAUGHTER!”
The most compelling evidence is that Alleras is sarella backwards ROFL
@Carl Eden Pee in the green food, I'll stop the time
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Or Arya being Arry the Orphan Boy.
Does he even mention this in the video?
Dude I really love your book breakdowns. I’ve read the series through like three times now but these breakdowns really help put a lot in perspective. Especially this video I’ve never even picked up on this Sarila connection. But you’re not overbearing with the connectivity of like words being used and things like that that some of these other book breakdowns do. You’re very clear. Thank you so much man, you really broaden the scope of the world and help amplify my experience
I love how deep he goes into this. My theory would have been "sarella backwards is alleras there's your evidence"
I really love that a badass like Oberyn had only daughters. I know that GRRM is just getting his feminist rocks off, but in the process, he made some really interesting characters.
Hi. Great videos.
Can you please make a video on crypts of winterfell? There’s something there. We know Jon has dreams of crypts and Abel(Mance) Is interested in the crypts and there are old stories about crypts as told by old nan.
Can you please make a video of it? Thank you!
That glass candle thing is so cool. When it lit due to the dragons I would have thought that would have been the sort of cool iconic spectacle that would have been perfect for the TV show. Shame they didn't add it in, they could of arranged the story any which way to add it in they didn't have to use Alleras.
The best ending for me would be the White Watchers winning and then it was shown that the Night King was Azor Ahai. Which makes zero sense, but i'd love it!
This would have been cool, to twist the human perception that we are always the default good guys who are the subjects of all the prophecy and destiny. To turn it around and this great hero is actually the unknowable force marching on them from the north?? Idk how that could work, like maybe azor ahai married into the walkers for peace and for some reason is marching them back now? Whatever reason the Others are marching to begin with.
Yes! New GoT video!
Enjoy these more than the show at this point.
Me too hahahaha
Not so much GoT video as Asoiaf video at this point.
More excellent content. I hope you keep delivering this kind of quality for a long time.
I am happy you noted why Aemon would mention the Sphinx, it always perplexed me as to why he would know or care about Alleras, but maybe it is not Alleras, but Jon. Kudos on the video!
Never never disappointed with your videos. Thank you for the Sphinx introduction! Cheers 🍻
love these speculation videos. Cant wait for more to come with the new book!
The sphinx represents the evolution of man: from animalistic to a higher spiritual form, or so some say, and is also the spiritual guardian of the mysteries of nature.
Hey Alt, always like your videos. How about doing a video on the Night's Watch? More specifically why is it called the Night's Watch.
"Night's" is a possessive adjective meaning that the Watch belongs to the night, not that they watch the night. Feels like there is something else going on there at the Wall...
Ahh the books...where Dorne is my favourite faction and get shit done. Ties to West and East, academics and warriors. All finally going to work together infiltrating Sparrows, Small Council, Aegon's Court and get revenge. As someone who likes both Alex Siddig and rates Doran Martell as one of the best characters....fuck D and D.
@The Wayfarer Exactly! I'm always completely befuddled when incels moan about the show being "feminist" when they turned all the female characters into bouncing titty'ed whores, stupid shrieking harpies, or one-dimensional "evil hot bitch" tropes. Oh, and let's not forget the disgusting "rape the hot teenage Sansa to give her motivation and a plotline". Seriously? And they did the Sand Snakes and Arianne real dirty. Real, distinct women each with their own talents and flaws. Masculine women, feminine women, warrior women, scholarly women. What does the show give us? "Ooh, we're so mad and evil and stupid, let's kill children. Bronn, you want this bad girl poosay? Aren't we sooo tough?"
@Andrew - Prince Doran wasn't all planning. In ADWD he says that people blamed him for his latency while, in reality, he was "the grass that conceals the viper until its strikes." In other words, he feigned importance and let the doing to Oberyn so that they could conceal their real plans.
Things is the Dornish seem the most intriguing but they fail at every one of their attempts to play to game of thrones (Quentyn, Arianne's plot to crown Myrcella etc..) they only appear badass and Doran is an idiot.
Alexander siddig played a villian character Ra's in gotham, and he did well. In game of thrones they could have included the secret plan of ally, this would have been well.
The Dornish plot isn't my favorite in the books, but it certainly deserves so much more than the horseshit the show has shoveled all over it.
I love this character. I hope she features more in Winds.
Great video and a great subject that I've been waiting for someone to take seriously. Can't wait for the next one 👍
I love these videos. I read the books so long ago, they are a good reminder. But also, you always bring up some really interesting points and theories.
These videos have made me appreciate Game of Thrones do much more - I'm definitely planning to get the audiobooks now.
The Martells are not Lords. By rights the are Princess or Prince. She/He is no Lords son. But a Prince's daughter.
Well Doran may be Prince of Dorne but he is still Lord of Sunspear
@AeneasGemini False. Dorne doesn't pay taxes and they are exempt from a few of the laws of the 7 kingdoms. This is why so many lords and petty lords hate Dorne. It also helped to fuel the first Blackfyre Rebellion. Lords believed Dorne was treated better. And they were.
it's an empty title since in practice they have no more power than any other great house
After watching this episode, I went back to watch the Faceless Men video, and in the Winds sample chapter, there’s mention of a sphinx and that a dragon egg might have been used to pay for the assassination of Balon. So maybe that ties into what Aegon was talking about too?
I am so happy you uyploaded this and I can't wait for more videos on Dorne, I am still angry that they messed it all up in the tv show
ALSO the Ironborn are amazing in the books, but they got it all fucked up on the show. I'm glad they changed the name of Theon's sister on the show because she is nothing like the character from the books. Asha is probably my second favorite character behind Tyrion in the books, and she is just so boring on the show. The Kingsmoot is joke on the show. Euron just admits to killing his brother? Did the writers not know that kinslaying is one of the worst things you can do in this world. Hell, that's the whole reason Victarian hasn't killed Euron for making him kill his wife in the books. Dorne and the Ironborn is why I love A Feast For Crows so much, and the show just shit the bed with both.
Book spoilers or not they don't have another more then a hundred millions of USD budget to fill the characters needed.
Arya Stark Right. But I'm sure they left it out because of book spoilers.
Watching your videos like this about things completely left out of the show makes me hope that the other two books are coming sooner rather than never.
in Book 1 someone(catelyn i think) describes Theon's smile as if he knows a secret joke as wellis there a chance this is intentional by GRRM, or he justlikes that phrase, despite them having 2 entire books between them
Great video. Thanks.
I just thought about the dead and animated dragon. What if Jon can subdue that dragon since he was also dead and brought back to life?
Because without it, there is no 3 heads to Targaryen dragon.
Thanks for this - so many details here that I’ve either overlooked or forgotten. Looks as though I’m going to have to read the books again before TWOW.
Coldhands = Benjen Stark = Daario Naharis = Euron Greyjoy = Jaqen H'ghar = Syrio Forel confirmed
Ah ... The old ch+BS=EG-DNxCF{AA}=JH ... Someone's been watching Preston
You're missing Eddard Stark
No way daario naharis is euron greyjoy
Also happens to be a secret Targaryen and Azor Ahai.
Jaqen H'ghar lmao nice
With Winds of Winter hopefully coming soon, I'd love to see a refresher video , a synopsis of the previous book(s) and what to expect in the continuing storyline, I personally need a refresher, it's been so long since I read ADWD. THANKS
any day now
around the corner
Soon
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Can your next video be on the meerenese knot? Having it simplified would be awesome. Great video, thanks
Dude you are a great storyteller.! Keep it up bro!
Alt Shift X , Respect to your passion! :)
Thank you for coming with in-depth video every-time with so much intricacies - no one else on the X-vid ever comes with!
I was wondering earlier what my favorite TV show/movie series/internet series might be. I think this might be it, followed by the "abridged reading" of "A Game of Thrones" that you did.
And sometimes, I really wonder how George Martin thinks of all of this. What's it like in that brain of his?
I'm really sad that I've watched all of your videos. I really wish I could erase them from my memory so I could enjoy all of them anew. Your videos are one of the reasons I love asoiaf so much. Great work, as always!
I love your theory! Thank you for sharing!
I think spending a little time going over the real-world mythology of the Sphinx may have been beneficial to this video. For example, according to Wikipedia,
"[The Sphinx] is mythicized as treacherous and merciless, and will kill and eat those who cannot answer her **riddle**."
I can't say exactly how to fit this in (I've only spent 30 seconds reading about Sphinx's lol), but it seems like this little fact alone could offer some insight.
you know i read the books years ago and I missed all of this stuff. thanks to your videos I think I'll be a little better at remembering all of this stuff when I finally get around to reading them again..
Alleras is actually Patchface.
Actually Alleras is Ghost.
1:40 actually in the show oberon does have 8 daughters, he mentions it to cercei at one point, It's just that only 3 of them become important in the story.
Goddamn I love the off-season book content. As a reader/watcher, please keep doing these!
Does anybody else think that Jon secretly being the "rightful king" kinda contradicts one of the story's major themes?
The whole point of the series is that feudalism and hereditary rule is a terrible system, and it hurts _everyone._
Would love to see a discussion of the Howland Reed = Ser Shadrich/The Mad Mouse theory, and maybe even the Harrenhal Conspiracy theory, especially the discussion of why Ethan Glover was the only Northener to be released from the Red Keep after Rickard and Brandon's death!
Actually, Oberyn has 8 daughters in the show as well. It's just that 5 of them were never shown. He told Cersei he had 8 of them in season 4.
There is also an interesting theory detailed in the Order of the Greenland that Shae is actually Sarella Sand.
x-vid.net/video/eoKSxuDJYk0/video.html
Would love to hear your take on that theory as well!!
I hadn't even thought about how Sarella is going to fit into Euron's upcoming apocalyptic fuckery.
Speaking of, are you going to do a video about Euron specifically without a direct focus on any theories about how he relates to other characters? In the Daario video you talk about the correlations between Euron and Daario, and I would argue the connection between the two is superficial at best, but on purpose: Euron is meant to be the future representation of what the temptation of violence meant to Dany in ADWD, while Euron will be in contrast with Jon, who doesn't want to wreak cataclysmic destruction on Westeros (until his R'hllor resurrection, as far as we know).
Now you talk about Euron's planned massive blood sacrifice in the Reach, and in your Bloodraven video you make references to the connection between Bloodraven and Euron. Pllleeeeaaaase do a video about Euron himself! He's probably my favorite ASOIAF villain and I'd love to see you compile all his theories in one place.
I always see the “I’m no lords son” to be a reference to her being a princes son/ daughter
The Oldtown intrigue is the one I look for the most for the next two books.
I'm amazed time and again, that these thing's didn't catch my eye when I read the books. o_O
Your channel is diamonds! Kudos to you and a big thank you for stimulating my mind.
Great job done.
I like your stuffs bcos you do present things with least personal emotion/bias attached, like the way Preston does nowadays.
He hates TV so much / is being so arrogant = I know it all you all are stupid.... and it shows.
You are presenting things in more objective ways so viewers can get unbias info they need to know and further contemplate and picture things out by themselves, without having to hear Unhappiness / Superior stories... full of themselves.
Amazing video as usual. Thank you so much for making it...
I really need to read the books a third time, because this was completely new information to me.
"oh" - Quentyn Martell
Famous last words.
And then he started to scream
Famous last words
Before burning to death
@jwc7215 seriously, like they absolutely Knew that everyone who's read the books would see the single quote they take from poor Quentyn and be like "damn you really had to do him like that"
Really enjoyed this...Sam's study buddy to discover what Gilly did about Rhaegar &Lyanna...etc. Sounds very feasible. Nice video,as always😉
Oberyn actually mentions in the series that he has 8 daughters, not just three, although only three are shown in the TV series.
Another fantastic video Alt Shift X! I adore your content.
I was blown away that the art used in his video was fan contributed, insanely talented they are.
The Illustrations are impressive..I like the symbolism of the Sphinxes in Jon and Danny ..The Sphinx in the Greek Mythology ..in the myth of Oedipus especially is the symbol of wisdom ..Oedipus in the myth defeated the Sphinx [she was a monster with a humans face/body half and half lion ..but a very intelligent one because she challenged every human who wanted to defeat her .to solve enigmas] W hen she asked him what thing is walking in the morning with no feet ,with two in the midday and with 3 in the evening?Oedipus answered''the Human ''..''why'' she asked him?..he answered''the human is first a baby and crawls[the morning of every human life],then grows up and walks in his two feet[the midday of every human life] and in the end when its old of his life with a cane [3 feet][the evening of every human life]..and so Oedipus defeated the Sphinx[]and she commit suicide falling from her rock ..Sarella [or Alleras ]is the embodiment of this monster in GOT ..she is enigmatic and she tries to find the book of the Dragons so to hurt Danny[she things Danny is responsible for Quentins death] to kill her dragons ...along with Jaqen there in the Citadel ..Im wondering if Sam or someone else will stop her..someone smarter than her
That seems too obvious for GRRM to just spell the name backwards. That's some Scooby Doo villain thing.
I like the theory that Serella is Shae and that Oberyn helped place her near the Lannisters. If you think Tywin was poisoned, then Serrlla Shae was in the perfect position to do that. Her father taught her poison craft while in oldtown perhaps which explains her love for it.
Share could be summer islander and not have brown skin because some Ryonish women settled on a summer isle according to the world of ice and fire. She's the right age.
The only hang up for me is I'm sure Qyburn is an agent of Dorne as well. He should have recognized Shae at court and would have informed dorne of her death so why do the Martells speak of Serella as if she lives?
That's what is frustrating and engrossing about GRRM, every theory has a huge flaw to make you second guess.
I love these little secrets hidden away in Planetos. GRRM is a master.
I love your GoT videos so much Alt Shift X!
I love that you credit the artwork. Great vid, as always.
Man this series makes me realize just how much of ASOIAF went over my head.
Once mistake at 1:37
Oberyn still has 8 daughters in the show,we know that from a conversation with Cersei.
However I think you mean that we only saw these three daughters
"Dragon must have three heads." Almost everyone is speaking about three riders but what if there must be three living dragons?
Oberyn claimed he had eight daughters on the show as well, we were just only introduced to three.
Well, actually, in Tv series Obery still has 8 daughters. He tells Cersei that, when they speak in King's Landing. He's even writing a letter to his daughter Elia in that episode.
Here: x-vid.net/video/OZKgxzW4J3o/video.html
In the show, Oberyn has 8 daughters, just as many as in the books. He talks about them with Cersei in season 4. The showrunners just forgot about them in season 5 and onwards...
Um, actually in season 4 Oberyn fully states his paternity to Cersei saying he has 8 daughters (only 4 of them mothered by Elaria).
Season 5 confirms those 4 daughters of Oberyn mothered by Elaria in a quote by Doran Martell.
Thus the show has 5 remaining Sand Snakes.
in some myths the Sphinx is also known to have the tail of a serpent, perhaps another connection to the sand snakes
I love the prologue in A Feast For Crows, poor Pate just wanted to bang Rosey. I love just reading about day to day life in Westeros. It's such an interesting world. The books are so great, man. All the extra characters, history, magic, and intrigue is why all fans need to read the books. They are much better than the show.
This is all cool, and well put together. I think that Sarella has been carefully planted by Doran as part of a Dornish conspiracy, and is not just there because she loves learning, though. Arianne and the Sand Snakes all have their purpose, at least in the books. My opinion is not so much that she will be against Daenerys because of Quentyn (I believe that Quentyn was set up to fail), but that Doran is casting his lot in with f'Aegon, and with the idea that f'Aegon will need a dragon to conquer the Seven Kingdoms. JMHO, but I think that Sarella has to figure out what to do with a dragon. Marwyn is Doran's brother-in-law, or something like that (someone will correct me, I'm sure), so I am skeptical that Marwyn is coming to "help" Daenerys. I think they are trying to steal a dragon, which isn't for the faint of heart or the clueless. Sarella may want access to the glass candle, Marwyn, and the "Death of Dragons" (as do the Faceless Men). I think that it's all part of a dragon-related, magic manipulating race that will hinder Daenerys long before she can set her sights on Westeros.
Alt shift, have you ever thought of doing other book series as well? not that i don't like your videos on ASOIAF, but ive been reading A Stormlight Archive and id love to see videos on that series.
Great vid...
Check out some of the info on her actually being Shae.. Pretty good stuff too..
Gunna love to see how some of this stuff plays out in WoW.. if this is one that comes to light..
You should do video on the theory about Stannis' plan to beat the Boltons. It's called a light in the dark or something like that.
Great video alt, you're the tops! But why do they never explain how Jon Snow is a legitimate full-blood Targaryen - with dark hair? In the books they're all blond, and by that i mean EVERY.SINGLE. TARGARYEN. is BLONDE! The ones that always bear dark haired babies are Barratheons, not Starks...
Nah, there are dark-haired Targaryens - e.g. Baelor "Breakspear", Daeron son of Maekar, Aegor "Bittersteel"...
I think Sarella = Alleras may be a bit too easy.
Someone (Maybe Preston Jacobs? I'm not sure) mentioned that she may be Shae and it is an interesting theory.
Could you do a video on what Loras is doing on Dragonstone in the books?
What if she's Quaithe? She speaks in riddles who Daenerys is sick off in aDwD. Quaithe must have access to a glass candle. Notice that until A Storm of Swords she had to physically be there to speak to Daenerys, but then the glass candles started burning and she joined the Citadel.
How sure are you that Sarella isn't working for Doran? Given that the only 'proof' that she isn't working for him is quite possibly a lie from Doran to Arianne. Doran lied a lot to both of his own kids which is a clear pattern and I believe that each sand snake will have a role to play in his Masterplan. Or do you think all of the sand snakes were included into the story for a different reason? It's probably faulty logic from my part but I cant think of another reason.
I'm still just starting to watch this.
But wouldn't you say Alleras/Serella was the most flat out giveaway easy theory among every character ever?
I mean, he's briefed in THE PROLOGUE,
THE VERY LAST chapter mentions there's a riddle about him,
then in THE APPENDIX, we meet him again!
GRRM has really lost his touch with this one...
Unless... 🤔
I wonder if Sarella is aware of any Maester Conspiracy? If so she could of exposed it up until a ASOS by telling her dad, unless (crazy theory here) Doran Martell's plan involves the Maesters.
I sure wish Oberyn Martell lasted longer in the TV series. I so dig that actor in everything I've seen him in.
in the tv series he has 8 daughters as well though we only see 3. he tells this to cersei when she ask him to take the ship to dorn. and he says that one of them is named after his sister.
I have the theory that Jaqen wants to learn how to hatch a dragon egg via the book in the citadel. I believe the faceless men have one egg. How did they get one? Euron gave them one. As in payment for killing his brother Balon. Remember he´s impious but he really believes in kinslaying as a sacred crime and an insult to the gods, remember that we know a faceless men is really really really expensive and remember Euron said he had one but he throw it to the sea in a moment of anger, which I believe is a lie. He exchanged it for the services of a faceless men.
Bloodraven is not the 3 Eyed Crow. Brynden even reacts with complete confusion when Bran asks him if he is the 3EC. It's most likely the Great Other manipulating Bran, as we have already heard has also happened to Euron "CROWS"-Eye and Sweet Robin. Crows are not Ravens ya big boob
There's also mention of a sphinx (which might be alleras) in twow which you happen to directly quote in an old video: x-vid.net/video/CfkFzpktyVk/video.html
Ur videos are always so amazing and the highlight of my week.
👍👏
Sarella can “obviously” be shae
That’s the major issue with most content makers, always making assertions and assuming it’s fact when grrms universe is full of secrets that can’t be easily sniffed out and full of misdirections