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Blackfyre Rebellions: House Targaryen’s greatest enemies

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  • Published on Nov 26, 2022

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  • Alt Shift X
    Alt Shift X  Year ago +587

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    • Maurice Smiles
      Maurice Smiles 2 months ago

      Qq

    • unstoppableExodia
      unstoppableExodia 2 months ago

      I should read the books?.....
      How ‘bout noooo?
      Just because Georgie boy is pretty much gonna leave all the book reading nerds with the bluest of balls doesn’t mean I need to let it happen to me. The tv show may have had a disappointing ending but it least it did have a conclusion. Winds of winter at this stage looks highly unlikely GRRM has lost the passion for the mainline series and he’s not getting any younger. He just wants to enjoy his success and live the high life and dabble with side projects. Maybe he’s keeping extensive notes and he’s raising up a crew of trusted underlings who will be able to thread the eye of the needle when he’s no longer around.
      However I’m not holding my breath. He’s probably got an air right contract written up that will ensure every single one of his unpublished writings will be run through a shredder, burned or deleted the moment his heart stops beating. I know it’s morbid and in bad taste to say it so plainly but of all the authors who seem likely to do that I’d put him in the top three at least.

    • Chris D
      Chris D 2 months ago

      Old man

    • Nicolas Cataldo
      Nicolas Cataldo 2 months ago

      Maybe the current iteration of the Golden Company supports a Targaryen successor to the throne because a lot of the exiled lords currently in the company now are exiled lords who were cast out of Westeros specifically for SUPPORTING the Targaryens during Robert's Rebellion. In the past, they were all exiles that supported the Blackfyres, but now they're larglely made up of exiles from 15 years prior during the downfall of the Red Dragon. Just a thought, but he's probably the Mummer's Dragon.

    • Likhith
      Likhith 4 months ago +1

      Waiting for your video / thoughts on - house of the dragon. Any ETA?

  • starwarsnerd100
    starwarsnerd100 Year ago +11797

    "So Bittersteel was bitter". This is the kind of deep analysis and critical thinking that keeps me coming back to this channel lol.

    • DaStellarNapster
      DaStellarNapster 3 months ago

      @STOMPER lol. U fuckin love it bub

    • STOMPER
      STOMPER 3 months ago

      @DaStellarNapster bahahshahs omg YOUR SO FUNNY!!!! NOT!!!!!!

    • DaStellarNapster
      DaStellarNapster 3 months ago +2

      Maybe his lower- steel was bitter because he couldn't have his lil sister.

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 3 months ago +1

      @Pedro Valente so that would make that child bittersweet

    • 3e electric
      3e electric 4 months ago

      x-vid.net/video/FzjEaS4al-o/video.html

  • Austin 123
    Austin 123 Month ago +837

    Think we can all agree that George RR Martin is probably one of the coolest people when it comes to things like this. He's created a world filled with drama and history over hundreds of years.

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 2 days ago

      @Alan DA this is the single biggest dick-suck I've ever seen.

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 2 days ago

      @Dan Haggerty not ripped. Analagous in some aspects, but hardly a carbon copy.

    • Samuel
      Samuel 15 days ago +1

      @Nathan Cunningham nahh let him be😂😂he just meatriding hard bro never touch another book

    • Nathan Cunningham
      Nathan Cunningham 18 days ago +5

      @Alan DA Tolkien's world is literally the benchmark of modern fantasy, like, old valyria and it's collapse is literally numenor

    • Alan DA
      Alan DA 24 days ago

      @Dan Haggerty and most of Tolkien is just illogical craddle-stories

  • Láďa Faltys
    Láďa Faltys Year ago +1879

    I often don't like when authors lie how they had it all planned from the beginning and fill their stories with retcons, but seeing how neatly the War of the Ninepenny Kings brings all the fathers and grandfathers of so many characters together and ties seamlessly into the main story just blows my mind

    • J Negative
      J Negative 9 days ago

      @unropednope46 it's not that he doesn't PLAN to finish, fool, VALAR MORGHULIS. He still has an entire 7th book to complete, and look at the guy. He aint exactly a picture of health.

    • J Negative
      J Negative 9 days ago

      @Hadi Khan you're an idiot - he had nothing to do with the last seasons of GoT and ALL book fans know that. He doesn't fear us or our judgment rofl.

    • Dokuganryu9
      Dokuganryu9 21 day ago

      He's not lying, he doesn't use outline based on what I saw from the interviews. He is a pantser type of a writer, one who plans stuff as he writes while knowing the general idea where the story should go. Pantser is pretty standard and valid type of writing.

    • ALPHA GAMER
      ALPHA GAMER 26 days ago

      When did George did that, he always have an ending in mind, but the process to get there might change, it's the Gardener style of writing, he sometimes deviates from the established plan, but the overall plan is still the same

    • G@ry
      G@ry 28 days ago

      @Jonathan O'Riley what a beautiful reply. At first I thought you were just another troll but, no, you Sir are a true admirer of the books. Let's hope he is able to deliver a satisfactory ending.

  • xHayashi
    xHayashi Year ago +3561

    "They don't want Aegon to be king cause he travelled with this hedge knight... And got these crazy ideas that peasants should have rights and stuff..." I can't believe how hard I laughed at this LOL

    • ALPHA GAMER
      ALPHA GAMER 26 days ago

      @Leon Russell but it's not like their smallfolk has a say, the nobles choose the new Iron King or Queen

    • Aaron Hock
      Aaron Hock Month ago

      he should have been king

    • Emre
      Emre 2 months ago

      Ahahahahaha me, too! xd

    • Khoi Vo
      Khoi Vo 2 months ago +10

      @Shaheen Shad Depends. Historically we have Poland, whose kings were voted into office by a bunch of lords. In the end, the oligarchic system, and the competing interests of the lords failed the Kingdom, leading to the "Deluge" and dissolution of Poland as a country until the modern age. In general, it stands to reason that an oligarchic system would work better, however in a historical context, there are not that many oligarchies and the ones that exists are not any better than the kingdoms and empires around it.

    • S0urc3C0de
      S0urc3C0de 2 months ago +10

      @Shaheen Shad As an ordinary peasant, I would not care so much about who holds the power and makes the laws but about how they actually affect me in my ordinary, day-to-day life. Especially, when I did not receive any scholar education and had no clue about politics.

  • C.W.Simpson Productions
    C.W.Simpson Productions 4 months ago +867

    The Targaryens’ greatest enemy was always themselves. The Dance of the Dragons, the Blackfyre Rebellions, Robert’s Rebellion, the inevitable Dany/Faegon conflict. Their lust for power was always their undoing, even at the brink of extinction.

    • Emily _KN5
      Emily _KN5 13 days ago

      This is one of the reasons, i dont want that a Targaryen gets the Throne in the end, because their „lust for power“ will maybe bring new wars…

    • Adlib Constitution
      Adlib Constitution 26 days ago +6

      @J K. Robert Baratheon literally has Targ blood in him, that is why the lords made him king than Ned stark

    • FUN Chainsaw
      FUN Chainsaw Month ago +3

      @William Curtis yup, the difference between a poser and a real fan

    • Jeremy Sears
      Jeremy Sears Month ago +4

      @William Curtis I was looking for this comment! Well put indeed!

    • William Curtis
      William Curtis Month ago +40

      @J K. Robert Baratheon is the grandson of Rhaelle Targaryen and great-grandson of King Egg. As always, the greatest enemies of the Targaryens are themselves.

  • benny_boy
    benny_boy Year ago +12513

    I swear I know more about the Targaryen dynasty than real history at this point

    • Hannibal Barka
      Hannibal Barka 7 days ago

      Well that was the goal, so....

    • AS Lysa
      AS Lysa 12 days ago

      @raphael ostrowski Europeans didn’t have dragons or had glistening towers that reached to the heavens or magic…

    • Kristy Briggs
      Kristy Briggs 20 days ago

      @Francisco Pérez same here 😊

    • Anamika Ganguly
      Anamika Ganguly 23 days ago

      me tooo

    • A S
      A S 23 days ago

      Same same😂

  • Kevin Avelar
    Kevin Avelar 2 months ago +200

    I completely buy into Young Griff being a Blackfire. It just makes so much more sense than him actually being Aegon.

    • Starry Night
      Starry Night 22 hours ago

      Blackfyre and Targareans are all the same. If Griff is proven to be capable, I think it's fine to let him fulfill his cause

    • Starry Night
      Starry Night 22 hours ago

      @Wingnut1989 me too. Give us some hope, grrm. We all know that a Targarean living alone in the world is always a terrible thing.

    • Wingnut1989
      Wingnut1989 Month ago +1

      I fucking want griff to be Aegon so bad

    • Buzz Kill
      Buzz Kill Month ago +5

      @Pedro Lucas hell yeah...I want the dragons back... Enough of these usurpers acting tough

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas Month ago +18

      @Buzz Kill "Black or red, a dragon is still a dragon" - Illyrio Mopatis

  • Femke V.
    Femke V. 3 months ago +628

    Hearing the theory of Bran becoming king as a puppet of the Three-Eyed Raven makes me think that George told D&D, "Bran will be king in the end," but didn't elaborate beyond that.

    • Wetcamerainc
      Wetcamerainc 20 days ago

      Did bloodraven truly die? Or is he still in control somehow?

    • TheVoidLord
      TheVoidLord 26 days ago +3

      @mohd shahariar How would Bran create long term peace? He's basically a husk (at least in version of this plotline we see in the show) and even if we ignore the show's depiction of him, he would basically be running a surveillance state

    • Charlotte
      Charlotte Month ago +3

      Bran becoming king is alluded to in an early chapter of GoT.

    • Jordn Chn
      Jordn Chn Month ago +16

      personally, i think daenerys will still burn kings landing, but whilst fighting faegon it makes sense with the whole mercy thing AltshiftX was talking about, because now daenerys won't give mercy and it will undermine her as she destorys kings landing.
      This in the context of show, makes more sense now GRRM probably told D&D that daenerys will destory kings landing, but fighting faegon not cersei.
      Wonder how Cersei's story will end if thats the case, like in the show shes presented as the end game villian, but will she just die like some 2ndary character kinda like Stannis in the show is presented as a 2ndary villian, whilst he'll probably become the main antagonist for Jon in TWOW

    • SunnyDayTeaFactory
      SunnyDayTeaFactory Month ago

      Bran is dead. Not sure who he is anymore

  • Deathgrapess
    Deathgrapess Month ago +167

    after the reveal of Aegon the Conquer's dream of ice and fire in HoTD, and Bloodraven's connection to prophecy, magic, and the old gods, i believe that Daemon Blackfyre was the brother he loved (by all accounts Daemon was a pretty great guy) but Bloodraven killed him to preserve the Targaryen dynasty in order to ensure the birth of the prince who was promised, which is an amazing layer tragedy

    • Fig Jam
      Fig Jam Month ago +7

      @Deathgrapess it has been pointed out to George that the Valyrians, the greatest empire the world has ever known who controlled massive sentient flying napalm cannons, built only a single outpost off the coast of Westeros and never attempted to go any further. almost as if they were afraid of something about Westeros. like maybe Dragonstone itself was a kind of watchtower to keep an eye on it. at which point George answered, (paraphrasing) "yes, that is kind of interesting" and then refused to elaborate further. so, there is that.

    • J G
      J G Month ago +11

      @The_Drop Bear the book isn’t canon either, in a way, it’s just what the Maesters and Mushroom believe happened or were told what happened, that’s what makes the show incredibly intriguing.

    • Deathgrapess
      Deathgrapess Month ago +5

      @The_Drop Bear its an idea in the books though, in an interview with grrm, he mentioned how some people think this is the reason for aegons conquest, whether it is true in the books will probably never be confirmed, but the big man himself has confirmed it is an idea

    • The_Drop Bear
      The_Drop Bear Month ago +5

      That is probably just a HotD thing, given the show isn't canon and the Prince that was promised turned out tk be a load of horseshit im the show

    • J G
      J G Month ago +11

      I’m rewatching this video for the umpteenth time, and I came up with a tinfoil idea, cause recently someone on the ASOIAF Reddit posted how many Targaryens were alive at one time during the 300 years, and basically Aegon IV single-handedly doubled the amount of Targaryens alive, so my tinfoil idea is what if he knew about the Prophecy? And he figured that the best defense would be to have as many Targs around to mount a defense, but of course he was also despicable, and bitter, so the tactic wasn’t exactly based in good faith

  • Cory Thompson
    Cory Thompson 2 months ago +78

    I can't believe the show completely omitted the Young Griff plotline. This is the first time I'm hearing of it and I want to see a show/movie adaptation of it. Come on, an exiled prince who's supposedly the last of House Targaryen's biggest rival/obstacle and has the biggest potential to win the Game of Thrones before Daenerys even sets foot on Westeros, that's made for the silver screen!

    • SunnyDayTeaFactory
      SunnyDayTeaFactory Month ago +14

      We have this whole backstory to the blackfyres for a reason, perhaps.

  • Connor Mohun
    Connor Mohun 2 months ago +277

    I’d love to see the full Blackfyre rebellion war after HOTD is finished. I feel it’s a time that’s so well developed and fleshed out it’s needed!

    • Fig Jam
      Fig Jam Month ago +1

      @Alex James wouldn't even really need an episode, just a 10-15 minute sequence at the start of the season. "something, something, something. dragons died out. something, something, this guy is called Aegon the unworthy." show starts.

    • Justin Sarvela
      Justin Sarvela Month ago

      George said that the series needs at least 4 seasons to tell the story properly. At this pace, that could cover a large bit of the 200 year gap. I'd love for it to work through all the Blackfyre stories.

    • Azwan
      Azwan Month ago

      I would love to see it but I dont think they would make a show on the blackfyre rebellion even for years after hotd ends because to a more casual audience they would probably think "oh another Targaryen Civil War but this time without dragons."
      Maybe after hotd hbo might do Aegons conquest or the Long Night prequel instead.

    • Connor Mohun
      Connor Mohun Month ago

      @Wani-Zame agrees although dawn could solve that problem

    • Wani-Zame
      Wani-Zame Month ago +5

      @Wzrd Frskn i think the problem with the Conquest is that it is pretty one sided which doesn’t lend itself well to drama. It would also likely have a lot less court drama and more action which would work in film but not tv. Personally I think the Conquest works better as a mythical time that all the Targs are in awe of.
      The Blaclfyre rebellions are much more HBO with all the family infighting, mystery and manipulation.

  • Rizky Mubaroq
    Rizky Mubaroq Year ago +301

    Gotta give it to Golden Company for staying loyal to their commitment of putting a Blackfyre on the throne

    • Isiah Arellano
      Isiah Arellano 25 days ago +1

      I think it's more driven by Bittersteel's hatred for Bloodraven and the fact that he felt cucked by Bloodraven for having Shiera Seastar 😂😂😂😂

    • Chirag Goyal
      Chirag Goyal Month ago +5

      @I am not Bob Dylan they are loyal to Blackfyre not for money

    • I am not Bob Dylan
      I am not Bob Dylan Month ago +1

      well they are mercenary, as long you pay them they will be loyal

    • Warboss Morzag Da Krumpa
      Warboss Morzag Da Krumpa 2 months ago +33

      Well, their word _is_ as good as gold.

  • EB
    EB 2 months ago +128

    The fact that Quentyn Ball joined Daemon the moment he didn't have his way shows how wise Daeron was to not accept him to kingsguard.

    • Yea Hey
      Yea Hey 2 days ago

      Yea I’m just 😊😊

  • Bibitybopitybacon
    Bibitybopitybacon Year ago +465

    Blackfyre also had a good claim through his mother. Daena was from the senior line while Aegon the unworthy and his father came from the Junior line. Lots of people thought Daena should have been queen after all her brothers died, not her uncle.

    • Adlib Constitution
      Adlib Constitution 26 days ago +1

      Daemon Blackfyre is pure Targaryen!
      His name should be Daemon Targaryen!

    • Nathan Portwoman
      Nathan Portwoman Month ago

      @Pedro Lucas sucks being a bastard doesn’t it? Lol

    • Priyam Tolani
      Priyam Tolani 2 months ago

      After the Targaryen civil war, it was established that the male line would always be superior and preferred to the female line. So your senior/junior analysis doesn't work.

    • 9xprincess
      9xprincess 2 months ago +3

      @Pedro Lucas That would have made more sense lol

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 3 months ago +39

      Daemon could easily be the heir to the throne If Viserys II and Daeron I married Aegon IV to Daena instead of Naerys and Baelor!

  • Starhunter
    Starhunter Year ago +2444

    *I thought the greatest threat to Targaryens was "kind of forgetting" about their enemies while their enemies certainly haven't forgotten about them.*

    • Hypatia Kovalevskaya Sklodowska
      Hypatia Kovalevskaya Sklodowska 4 months ago

      😂😂😂

    • ewere normwe
      ewere normwe 4 months ago +1

      theres no way u can sneak up on a flying chopper from the ground and shoot 3 arrows perfectly ? lmao theres no need for heat seekers anymore then .season 6 was the end

    • Mister Majestic
      Mister Majestic 10 months ago

      @Mr. Fantastic less bad at least

    • 187btokes
      187btokes Year ago +1

      @Harleking YT I mean both the Faith and Old Town had no problems with the Good King. But then again he was way too good for Westeros. That's why everything fell apart after he died. No one would ever nor will ever live up to him and his two dead sons.

    • Starhunter
      Starhunter Year ago +1

      @Revan Ruler *It did peak in season 4 but 5 and 6 were good and awesome, respectively. I think those 2 seasons (especially 6) get more hate than warranted because they don't follow the books 📚.*

  • Jonathan O'Riley
    Jonathan O'Riley 2 months ago +138

    I like how Blackfyre is essentially an allegory for how one's greatest enemy is often the one of their own making.

  • Prince Procrastinate
    Prince Procrastinate Year ago +85

    A lot of people interpret the "mummer's dragon" to mean a fake dragon, but what if it literally means "Varys' dragon" as in this Targaryen is merely his puppet, could be that Aegon really is potentially the son of Elia and Rhaegar, but he is utterly Varys' instrument whether aware of it or not.

    • sinwithagrin
      sinwithagrin Month ago +1

      Huh. I never thought of that but it still doesn't explain the golden company.

    • w0ttheh3ll
      w0ttheh3ll 4 months ago +7

      note: mummers' dragon vs mummer's dragon
      the spelling suggests that we're looking at a specific mummer, not mummers in general

  • Yago Pacheco
    Yago Pacheco Month ago +40

    To think that bloodraven was the mentor to Bran who eventually get the iron throne is incredibly bizarre and I hope we get more information about this in the books if it eventually leads in that direction

  • Kal
    Kal Month ago +65

    Damn. even 50 years after his age Daemon was revered as 'the wonder and the terror of his age'
    GOALS.

  • AC4X
    AC4X Year ago +4957

    Fun fact: Robert Baratheon and Rhaegar Targaryen were literally second cousins. Robert’s Rebellion was kind of just another familial civil war.

    • Tshepos Manaka
      Tshepos Manaka 2 months ago

      It is known

    • Michael Henry
      Michael Henry 2 months ago

      @Ralco Gaming No, that's pretty much entirely wrong. The Baratheons did not rule as storm kings prior to the Conquest, that was the Durrandons. The Baratheon origin is unknown, they might've been a vassal house of the Targaryens or maybe the name was invented, but the first Baratheon we know of was Orys Baratheon, rumored to be Aegon the Conqueror's bastard brother. He was Aegon's right hand man during the Conquest and was named first hand of the king. He defeated Argilac Durrandon during the war, the last King of the Stormlands. He then married Argilac's daughter and took the stylings of the Durrandons (their sigil, house words, association with storms, etc.) and Aegon granted him lordship of the Stormlands. Robert Baratheon's great grandfather, Lyonel Baratheon, briefly rebelled against the Crown, naming himself a new Storm King when his daughter's betrothal to the crown prince was broken. He was defeated, but as a concession Aegon V betrothed his daughter Rhaelle to Lyonel's heir, Ormund. Rhaelle and Ormund had a son, Steffon. Steffon and Cassana Estermont had Robert. Thus Robert's grandmother was a Targaryen. This heritage was used to provide Robert with legitimacy after the rebellion, as Robert actually was next in line to the throne after Aerys and Rhaegar (and his children's) deaths, ignoring Viserys and Daenerys. Funnily enough, tracing Targaryen succession, Stannis is next in line to the throne behind Daenerys. If Dany dies, Stannis would be both the legal heir to the throne via the Baratheon line and via the Targaryen line.

    • Emre
      Emre 2 months ago

      @Hiyama420 Wow, that would blow my mind! But no background there...

    • taylor redmond
      taylor redmond 2 months ago

      @Benson Fang all of the relationships are actually incest.

    • Mailen Driussi
      Mailen Driussi 2 months ago +4

      Rhaegar even called him cousin during a flashback.

  • Holy Doggo
    Holy Doggo 3 months ago +74

    damn, knowing daemon in the heat of battle helped his wounded enemy get to safety only to be peppered with arrows by his half brother kind just hurts man

  • generaljive
    generaljive 3 months ago +87

    Introducing Griff as another antagonist in a post cersei, post white walker story could have been a cool pivot in the final season.

    • Erebus
      Erebus  Month ago +11

      @Markus Haahr Euron is the final baddie, he is Harkoon the hero, the lightbringer who will bring the long night

    • Markus Haahr
      Markus Haahr 2 months ago +15

      That or crazy lovecraftian Euron.

    • Travis Illerbrun
      Travis Illerbrun 2 months ago +24

      They had a good set up. The golden company was introduced.

  • Todd Howard
    Todd Howard Month ago +9

    Is it possible that Aegon didn’t actually legitimize his bastards? Is it possible that the maesters lied to create another rift in the Targaryen dynasty?

  • Alex James
    Alex James Month ago +28

    Personally I like the idea that in fact in a cruel twist of fate Dany is the mummers dragon, that her heritage is a lie and she doesn't realise until the last minute. As targeryan dreams usually lead to their downfall as they misrepresent the information to fuel false ambition.
    The term 'slayer of lies' could also have a double meaning which I've not heard anyone else mention thus far. Yes it could refer to someone who slays a liar. But it could also refer to a liar known to kill, that her slaying is based on lies.
    It seems to me like that could be a more convincing and shocking twist which would reframe the characters actions up to that point in a very fascinating way.

  • Derek Dietz
    Derek Dietz Year ago +1024

    Still think “beneath the gold, the bitter steel” is one of the hardest lines of the books

    • Edriss Scofield
      Edriss Scofield 16 days ago

      Never forget the humble "Though All Men Do Despise Us"

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 2 months ago +5

      "Unbowed, unbent, unbroken" is a good one because it shows how house martell has never truly been defeated.

    • ED the Happy Clown
      ED the Happy Clown 2 months ago +5

      "We do not sow" is such a blunt and badass threat in my opinion and I always thought it is pretty cool. But I like "Ours is the fury" and the phrase of the Golden Company as well.

    • brandon the writer
      brandon the writer 2 months ago +5

      @bait "Go on, take your bloody raven."
      "Lady Catelyn felt as though her heart had turned to stone."
      The fucking subtlety is stunning, George

    • bait
      bait 3 months ago +1

      Winter is coming

  • Maverick Smith
    Maverick Smith Year ago +55

    The Blackfyre rebellions are probably my favorite piece of asoiaf history and I am deeply vested in the Blackfyres, so this was really really cool to see you cover this. Thank you!

  • 123 vict
    123 vict 6 months ago +51

    The thing is young griff actually is a good kid and might actually be a great king whether he's a blackfyre, targaryen or some common valyrian bastard doesn't change the fact that he's a good dude and also really good at rallying people to his side like he did with the golden company leaders remember they were ready to say "screw this we're not gonna fight for you" but then young griff said some words and suddenly they were like "hell yeah we'll fight for you" and the men of the golden company really seem to like him and even if the leaders (whom he personally had to rally) believe he's a blackfyre, the bulk of the golden company think he's targaryen.

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 2 months ago +7

      @Dustin Gaethje well isn't that hats his "small council" is for

    • Dustin Gaethje
      Dustin Gaethje 2 months ago +1

      @Mike Trujillo Not being a tactical genius makes him bad, as he can be manipulated easily by anyone who's gonna be there with him in King's Landing.

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 2 months ago

      @Charlie Ricker fair

    • Charlie Ricker
      Charlie Ricker 2 months ago

      @Mike Trujillo tactical

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 2 months ago +13

      @Kree Lesley just cause he's good doesn't mean he's a tactile genius, I mean he's still a kid

  • Faturachman Farasy
    Faturachman Farasy Year ago +86

    This game of thrones novel should be made into a series. Hopefully it would be written by competent writers who care more about sticking with the original material than their own ego.

    • Noah Pancakes
      Noah Pancakes 24 days ago

      There even fucking up house of the dragons with there ego and going away from the story kindab

    • XxMidnightToker420xX
      XxMidnightToker420xX 2 months ago

      That would be nice

    • W.A.S
      W.A.S 2 months ago +1

      Amen to that.. rayan condal seems trustworthy.

  • Thalmor Agent
    Thalmor Agent Year ago +60

    14:52
    While yes, the Blackfire Rebellion could've been stopped had Daemon at least been imprisoned, I still feel that killing Aenys and Haegon Blackfire (especially Aenys) was a bit much. Haegon maybe, since he had just surrendered and maybe the idea of rebellion was still heavy in his mind, but he killed Aenys after essentially betraying him by breaking his promise, which is enough to incite rebellious thoughts in others.

    • Chirag Goyal
      Chirag Goyal Month ago

      @mapping shaman that too only when no other male heirs were left

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 2 months ago +5

      Plus aenys wasn't even being violent, he was trying to claim the throne peacefully.

  • Stalin-In-Disguise?
    Stalin-In-Disguise? Year ago +2595

    House targaryen: "no one can defeat me"
    House targaryen but slightly different: "think again"

    • Emre
      Emre 2 months ago

      Ahahahaahh

    • Ethan Winters
      Ethan Winters 2 months ago +14

      @Meghana AP Eng Even the guy who started the Baratheon house was a bastard brother to Aegon.

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 2 months ago

      @Khushi Shah. Yeah but that was not the reason he was king

    • Khushi Shah.
      Khushi Shah. 2 months ago +14

      @Faisal kamal Robert Baratheon is of Targaryen blood. He and Rhaegar were cousins. His grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen.

    • Videre Vero
      Videre Vero 2 months ago +9

      Inverse House Targeryan with Red Eyes; “I’m about to do what’s called a pro gamer move.”

  • Random2730
    Random2730 Year ago +33

    At this point your summarized theories are as good as we're gonna get, so canon in my books. Thanks for the great work! (Also wow there's a lot of great new art for these characters huh?)

  • Maso Perez
    Maso Perez Year ago +26

    The Ninepenny Kings are probably my favorite (incredibly minor) group of characters. I think I'm always fond of outlaws and outcasts who gripped power and use it to smash at Lords.
    But I'm aware they would've been just as bad if not worse if they had won.

  • thesalanian
    thesalanian Year ago +43

    I really want the feud between Bloodraven and Bittersteel to come to fruition somehow, with the Golden Company maybe facing off against the Old Gods in some way

  • tommyormerod068
    tommyormerod068 Year ago +16

    The “point” of Young Griff vs Danaerys may be that it wakes her up to how her house, and the Valyrians before them, fell … through not being united. Then she realises she can’t unite the kingdom and summons the great houses to decide “what unites people” like the final episode. Just an idea 🤔

  • TheLetterM
    TheLetterM Year ago +1839

    "Duncan The Small, who is probably named after Duncan The Tall" Another solid theory!

    • Alec
      Alec 9 months ago +7

      @Blackfish I don't know! All I could find is that he refused to answer. Maybe he just has a policy against giving straight answers when it comes to characters' connections. Balerion the cat > "the bad cat," for instance. He doesn't even answer questions about cats.

    • Blackfish
      Blackfish 9 months ago +2

      @Alec Did GRRM specifically refuse to answer like a "hmm we'll see" kind of thing, or was it more like "are you seriously asking me this question with a super obvious answer"? Dunk is Egg's best friend and there's no other character called that in the whole series.

    • TheLetterM
      TheLetterM 10 months ago +2

      @Alec My theory is he is actually named after Small Paul from the Night's Watch

    • Alec
      Alec 10 months ago +15

      George R.R. Martin has been surprisingly quiet on this. No bullshit, it's actually _not_ confirmed.
      EDIT: I mean he's been asked specifically and refused to confirm or deny if Duncan the Small is named after Duncan the Tall.

    • Cheese is Jar
      Cheese is Jar 10 months ago +4

      @Shadriand wow maybe George should make some prequels about this!

  • S1apSh0es
    S1apSh0es Year ago +559

    Broke: Blackfyre Rebellion
    Joke: War of the Ninepenny Kings
    Woke: The Struggle for Shiera Seastar's Snatch

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  • Uros Vukovic
    Uros Vukovic Year ago +10

    I think that Asoiaf book ending would have some similarities with a GoT show with some smaller differences.
    In the show, when Daenerys found out about Jon's true parentage she felt frustrated and jealous. I really couldn't understand why she felt that way, because one of her main duties as a future ruler is to secure the legacy. And she couldn't wish for a better man than Jon Snow who would make her a true Targaryen heir.
    I imagine that book Daenerys would feel different about that and she would accept the truth about Jon being her nephew. But the main factor for awakening her genetic Targaryen madness would be just Aegon. Before Daenerys arives in Westeros, Aegon could liberate much of the realm, or even take the Iron throne away from the Lannisters. Things that might happen are those that the common people could name him Aegon the Liberator and his Blackfyre heritage officialy revealed. When Daenerys arrives the common people would not feel trustful about her mostly because of her foreigner army of Unsullied and Dothraki. She would be jealous over Aegon for winning the favor of Westerosi people over her but that jealosy could turn into true madness once she finds out he is a false Targaryen or Blackfyre, a sworn enemy of her ancestors who fought hard to secure the throne from them.
    That could be main reason for book Daenerys to commit the same attrocity she commited in the show's final season. Blackfyre line is finally destroyed in the Burning of King's Landing, Jon Snow assasinates Dany and Drogon destroying the Iron Throne in the same way it happened in the show with Bran Stark becoming a new king elected on the Great Council meeting.

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 2 months ago +2

      While I think most of this will happen, Dany and fAegon, during the Burning of King's Landing, could have a moment similar to Frodo and Sam on Mount Doom after the Ring was destroyed, conciliating with each other before they die by the flames of the conflict they both started!

  • Jonpluke Hughes
    Jonpluke Hughes Month ago +5

    This story can be said to be a lot more interesting and nuanced than the dance is, really hope to see the blackfyre story on screen

  • David Cortes
    David Cortes 29 days ago +7

    I personally believe that it all comes down to the topic that GRRM likes best: Lust for power is always the undoing of those who wield it, even at the brink of extinction, they'd rather destroy the place than to loose or not have their way and be forced to make compromises.

  • Rain Varela
    Rain Varela 3 months ago +76

    Young Griff should have been included in Game of Thrones. They should have had added more seasons to do so

    • Let Me Tell Ya Lil Story
      Let Me Tell Ya Lil Story 2 months ago +2

      100%

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 2 months ago

      @God Emperor of Mankind 3.0 they shouldn't have got rid of eurons bullshit, they should have given him his crazy cthulu bullshit he has in the books

    • Josh Mcelhaney
      Josh Mcelhaney 3 months ago +17

      Agreed, there are several characters and storylines that were cut that would have been great and provided material for more seasons

    • God Emperor of Mankind 3.0
      God Emperor of Mankind 3.0 3 months ago

      he could have been included if they got rid of unnecessary boring storylines like Grey Worm and Missandei, Euron's bullshit and cock jokes.

  • Tristan
    Tristan Year ago +21

    Great, concise explanation of all available canon information on the subject, complete with beautiful, cited artwork. Awesome video, as usual. Thanks for your work, it’s great to watch these as I read the books.

  • Michael Silver
    Michael Silver 8 months ago +5

    I come back to this channel's content more than any other GoT channel. Just the perfect balance of info, thoughtful analysis and a dash of humor. Well done

  • dinasoursgoroar
    dinasoursgoroar Month ago +3

    I truly love watching and learning from your videos. Your work is appreciated, and thank you for the time and effort you put in to every one of these videos.

  • Dane Johnson
    Dane Johnson Year ago +2104

    It’s funny how Robert is technically still Aegon the Conqueror’s descendant in that opening

    • CharlesFreck
      CharlesFreck 10 months ago +1

      @King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England The only thing that is abundantly clear is that you've never read the books

    • Son of Jack
      Son of Jack 10 months ago

      @Mellow Yello Jaehaerys' mom got with a Baratheon, Jocelyn, they had a daughter that married her nephew Aemon. They had Rhaenys together.
      After that I'm pretty sure that Ormund was the last one to produce progeny with a Targaryen.

    • books from Windblown
      books from Windblown Year ago

      @علي ياسر Ironically Targaryen we’re strangers to Westeros, long before the conquest

    • iMajoraGaming
      iMajoraGaming Year ago +4

      @Stego1819 They used vague elements of the Winds of Winter after source material ended, they did not and by and large did not get most of the later seasons from George. They got vague hints and a handful of minor things like Hold-the-Door. They made their own story and even when they followed the source material they told a radically different story than the books by huge meterics. Bran will not be made King. I am calling it now. There is zero chance the unwritten end books are going to end the story like that, sorry dude. They haven't even been written yet.
      Stego is just downright wrong though.

    • Stego1819
      Stego1819 Year ago +2

      @lidocaine pka If that were the case the show would have ended like that but it didnt. The show ended with Bran being king and we know that D&D have their ending from GRRM.

  • PRINCE KRAZIE
    PRINCE KRAZIE 6 months ago +4

    The painting you used for Serra, Illyrio's wife, is a British lady called Jane Digby, who married an Arab Sheikh.

  • Tereza
    Tereza Month ago +2

    For some reason, I think the Targaryen lore is much better after the Dance of Dragons and after they loose their dragons, it's much more fun seeing the Targaryens face to face on the same level with the other lords, it gets boring with them resolving everything with OP dragons 😆

  • Caron 11.09
    Caron 11.09 7 months ago +18

    Guys like Griff and an independent book- like Euron would have given the Series the plots and tension it would have needed. It was only about action and war. The end was more or less foreseeable. This would have given material for a great season 7 and 8 i think.
    I always thought, that Euron didn’t learn that much on his tours and kinda wasted them.
    I mean, he could have had an army full of people and techniques around the world.
    In the book, he is a smart and scary unpredictable person.

  • confused
    confused Year ago +13

    I only recently discovered this channel and now I am binge watching. Your voice is incredibly soothing and due to your pace I can understand everything in a 30 minute or more video. Please, continue to make more videos, for we will watch your career with great interest!

  • rob russell
    rob russell 2 months ago +5

    ive watched this video probably 6 times and still learn somthing everytime...i love this universe and honestly if they made this into a movie or like a small series that would be amazing

  • C.C. Ekeke
    C.C. Ekeke Year ago +5

    Correction: Tywin, Steffon and Aerys became friends years before the War of the Ninepenny Kings. Aerys and Tywin's friendship began when Tywin served as a cupbearer at Kings Landing.

  • EndOfSmallSanctuary
    EndOfSmallSanctuary 11 months ago +9

    The fact that all of this is just background lore and took place decades before the main series is just staggering. I still struggle to comprehend how one man - Martin - can be responsible for all of this.

  • Danterik
    Danterik 26 days ago +6

    Damn. Bloodraven is the true MVP of this world honestly.

  • Tom Francis
    Tom Francis Year ago +2865

    That virgin vs chad format had me rolling with laughter

    • k g
      k g 2 months ago

      oh rly cuz it had me rolling my eyes and cringing. those chad memes are garbageeee for insecure baby boys

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 5 months ago +3

      @Ren he was a beta male and Daemon was on the sigma male grindset

    • Ren
      Ren Year ago +14

      “He liked to read books and listen to women.”

    • Jorge Chávez
      Jorge Chávez Year ago +5

      lmao

    • Sára Němcová
      Sára Němcová Year ago +24

      The funniest part about is that is SO on point.

  • حسين سمير
    حسين سمير 24 days ago +2

    Bloodraven one of most interesting characters in asiof I hope we know more about him in future books fire and blood or winds of winter

  • Laakson Lilja
    Laakson Lilja 28 days ago +3

    Daemon Blackfyre: *declares himself as king*
    Bloodraven: I’m gonna end this man’s whole bloodline!

  • Striker
    Striker Month ago +2

    The whole situation with Danny, Aegon and Jon raises the perfect succession crisis to poke fun at how bloody stupid monarchy is and proves Varys point of power resides where men think it resides, and everyone who argues irl for any character because they are the rightful heir is missing the whole bloody point. It’s being raised in house of the dragon also. Who should rule, the kings only surviving child, his daughter. Should it pass over her to the kings oldest sons son. If the female line is to be considered then who has first dibs Griff or Danny. Should the marriage annulment put Jon on the throne, which goes back to the start of the blackfyre crisis. Bastard pretenders ancient bloodlines and claims. Real answer, who tf cares. They are all children less than 20 years old who’ve never spent a day in the capital or in the heart lands of the kingdom learning the culture and society. It also applies to the succession of the lord of winterfell with Lyanna versus Neds children and blahdee blah. Jon’s “I dun want it” is like the only morally sensible and not selfish thing to do. Only just resolution that involves the least incest if Aegon is a blackfyre, marry Danny, combine your forces. They’ve both been raised by Illyrio and it’s honestly the only plan that makes sense as to why he’d keep Danny alive if he has Griff.

  • HaveSpaceshipWillTravel
    HaveSpaceshipWillTravel 26 days ago +1

    I love your theories and support them completely. It makes so much sense, why would the Golden Company go back to Westeros with a Targaryen Prince? Only for a Blackfyre.

  • Ben Trinker
    Ben Trinker 2 months ago +10

    Daeron sounds based af. He stabilized the relationship with their enemy Dorn and kept the insane faction daemon in check!

  • Matt 1
    Matt 1 2 months ago +8

    Can you make a playlist that has all your videos based in the thrones universe in chronological order? Would be cool to try and wrap my head round it in order 😂 great video as always!

  • Alexis LK
    Alexis LK 2 months ago +3

    That, sir, is the most understandable and clear video about the Blackfyre Rebellions I've seen, compare to other ones on X-vid that are very theoric and not precise at all
    And the Blackfyre era is absolutely amazing, they should do series on it, after House of the Dragon because it's an even more interesting period, with less dragons but more plots and battles, that are way more interesting to me. And come one, Brynden Rivers only by himself is already worth a TV series, his life is just a whole show just by itself and he had the most incredible journey in the history of Westeros I believe, probably in the top 3 most powerfuls "humans" in the history of this universe, with all his skills, his knowledge and longevity, and most people don't even know this character, what a shame.
    Please HBO, make a Blackfyre sequel.

  • Cornelius Maze-Eye

    This one was excellent and a long time coming. Listening to you describe all of it, it's clear to me that it's vital for the ending of the story. Perhaps in the end it will be Danearys burning down King's Landing because she fears she's lost all legitimacy against what people think is a Targaryen, who she knows is not, instead of Cersei Lannister, who I'm going to guess will lose the throne to Young Griff while everyone else is busy fighting the White Walkers up North.

  • Gallowglass
    Gallowglass Year ago +1300

    “This was 20 years after the first rebellion and these guys were still fighting over who got to root their sister” what a phrase lmao.

  • Yanii
    Yanii Year ago +1

    I could see Daenerys marrying Young Griff, she’s smart. She knows the Blackfyres have been an issue for her family for generations so I think she’d wanna handle them before it becomes an issue again by marrying her cousin. Also it’d keep the Valyrian blood strong in future offspring which would further legitimize the kids’ claim to the throne. That’s important since she’s a woman so her kid’s name and titles will be questioned. The kids being Targaryen descent on both sides increases the chance of her beloved dragons surviving and finding new dragon riders. It could possibly make them able to hatch more eggs in the future if they exist since Targaryens definitely have a strong link to dragons being born in the world.

  • Kelley Condon
    Kelley Condon Year ago +2

    this is seriously very well put together and makes things very very understandable where it can get muddled in certain areas

  • cobra888
    cobra888 Year ago +60

    Sometimes I just imagine someone like Oversimplified narrating the history of Game of Thrones.
    "This enraged his father......who punished him severely".

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 5 months ago +3

      Daeron Targaryen liked to read books and listen to women
      this enraged his father who punished him severely

  • Smuu !
    Smuu ! 26 days ago +1

    My theory is that the TV ending was partly what George has planned for the books, only that the TV show doesn't have Young Griff. So instaed of Cercei being the one who Daenerys fights and eventually loses her shits about, it's this supposed other Targaryen with a better claim than her. The main thing Dany strives towards is her "rightful" throne, so having it taken up by somebody who may have a better claim would piss her off. if then rumor came to her that this new King is not, in fact, her brother's son, but some Blackfyre descendant, it would make sense to me that she could be driven into doing really really nasty things in the name of "legitimacy". It would make a lot of sense and it would round out her character much more smoothly if she got continously more pissed at the whole situation.

  • Nimble D. Crabb
    Nimble D. Crabb Year ago +1277

    Daenerys is gonna make a mess of things isn't she? Slaying aegon is gonna slay more than just one lie, especially the ones she's been telling herself about her own house's role in this story.

    • G filmer
      G filmer 2 months ago

      @Dillon Martin That would be interesting. Better than what we got in the show.

    • Dillon Martin
      Dillon Martin 2 months ago

      @G filmer I believe she will die in the long night as well but I believe she’ll die in childbirth like her mother before her. She will then reunite with Drogo but continue her line. The witch’s prophecy from book one basically.

    • ewere normwe
      ewere normwe 4 months ago

      @Nimble D. Crabb she always wanted to go home .her real home is Dragonstone

    • Nimble D. Crabb
      Nimble D. Crabb 4 months ago

      @ewere normwe I hope so, but I fear she won't accept that.

    • ewere normwe
      ewere normwe 4 months ago +1

      fact is if dany dies in the story slavers will ruin the cities and innocent ppl's lives again .she has done more noble things that should not be undone . ultimate ending should ben dany keeping the secret about griff's true identity and leaving to Dragonstone cuz she wants her children to be free .KL is not a good place for dragons

  • Stephen
    Stephen 9 months ago +13

    I did not see Blood Raven being the three-eyes crow, that blew my mind.

  • Roko Baraka
    Roko Baraka Year ago +6

    Might I persuade you to do a video on House Hightower? They are by far the most mystrious house in the Reach, especially considering they are a powerful ally and one of (if not the) richest houses, considering we have seen very little of them in the main story

  • Portia
    Portia Year ago +71

    I’m dead at the fact you used a 18th century portrait of a woman and colored her hair green and called her Rohanne of Tyrosh 😂

    • Peter
      Peter 2 months ago

      That cracked me up too lmao

  • Alexander
    Alexander Year ago +3

    Aegon is essentially the Blackfyre version of Egg. Tough and humble upbringing, knows how the common people live, seems to have a good temperament. I think the trick is that Aegon wins the throne and turns out to be a great king, and when Dany returns and kills him she'll be hated for its and maybe that turns her mad?

  • James_th3Trash_Lord
    James_th3Trash_Lord Year ago +816

    So ultimately House Targaryen's greatest enemy is themselves, because Daemon Blackfyre is technically a Targaryen if he was legitimized by Aegon 4, and Bobby B's grandma was a Targaryen. I think the Targaryens would benefit from some family therapy tbh.

    • Emre
      Emre 2 months ago

      @G filmer xD xD

    • Frenchsterr
      Frenchsterr 3 months ago

      they'd kill each other at every session and then wipe out the therapist and their family

    • Thalmor Agent
      Thalmor Agent 4 months ago

      @samiam2088
      Ah, I see, thank you for the clarification 👍🏾

    • samiam2088
      samiam2088 4 months ago +1

      @Thalmor Agent Don't listen to that guy. Lineage and family name in Judaism goes through the father. Religious recognition goes through the mother. You're only recognized as Jewish if you have a Jewish mother (or you convert), however, your family name and lineage is entirely passed through the father. Judaism is massively Patriarchal.

    • samiam2088
      samiam2088 4 months ago

      @WinterMan That's not how Jewish lineage works. Bloodline/tribe goes through the father; religious legitimacy goes through the mother.

  • Tyler Herlihy
    Tyler Herlihy Year ago +21

    Alt shift man, this was so awesome. I never have had the patience to read the history books but loved consuming these in this format. Well done.
    If you ever need ideas for the future - if there’s enough content just to tell Barristan Selmy’s whole story - id watch that 1000 times. He deserves so much better than D&D gave him.

  • Tainan
    Tainan 19 days ago +1

    Just one thing I thought was unclear. It is said in the books that Bloodraven's intentionally targeted the twin sons of Daemon BlackFire. Because he knew the Daemon would not abandon his children. And that's what happened, after Bloodraven's and his archers had killed his children, Daemon refused to let go of the bodies, which made it easy for Bloodraven's to kill him with his archers.
    Bloodraven was also the last wielder of the darksister sword. When Brann finds him in the cave, if I'm not mistaken, he also finds the sword. Another thing the series ruined...

  • Thea Bradford
    Thea Bradford 7 months ago +4

    I think Illyrio fed into Viserys’ delusions of grandeur to make Young Griff look like a more desirable option as king… I am just confused as to why he gave Danaerys the dragon eggs and all that 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • Ayom560
    Ayom560 Year ago +1

    Something that bugs me about the king bran ideas is he can actually have children unless someone cut his jewels off. Being paralyzed doesn't remove any ability for children can just make it more difficult

  • Paprika
    Paprika Year ago +1924

    Broke: ASOIAF is about the war for the throne
    Woke: ASOIAF is about the war for the dawn
    Bespoke: ASOIAF is about the war for Shiera’s Snatch

    • theprimo100
      theprimo100 2 months ago

      @AeneasGemini But those dozens of others aren't your siblings, which is a bit of a deal breaker for Targaryens.

    • D'Alton
      D'Alton 2 months ago

      @AeneasGemini Depends on the context and the stakes. Love is a worthy cause but it's not worth breaking up your family. Obviously war is not an acceptable response either.

    • D'Alton
      D'Alton 2 months ago

      @BENJAMIN ABNER Okay

    • bait
      bait 3 months ago

      Bruh

    • BellaSara3346
      BellaSara3346 3 months ago +1

      @Thalmor Agent She's also magically talented.

  • Zantetsuken’s Dao
    Zantetsuken’s Dao 10 months ago

    When Brynden said he had a brother he loved, a brother he hated, and a woman he desired, I found it odd that he didn't say sister when referring to Shiera Seastar and it's also in past-tense like he was over it. Pretty weird that he didn't have a kid with her if they loved each other that much. Maybe there might be more drama between the four of them like if Daemon was also inserted into the love triangle, Brynden would have a reason as to why he killed the brother that he loved after possibly finding out he had an affair with his woman Shiera. There might be an undisclosed Blackfyre bloodline if Shiera had a kid as well. Even though Brynden said that when you pardon rebels, you only plant the seeds of the next rebellion but spared the offspring of his lover and brother, possibly because the child was a female and could not lay claim to the throne or due to some lingering attachment or uncertainty of her origin. Maybe the kid, who shares a name that closely resembles her mother Shiera, was actually Serra Targaryen, wife of Illyrio and mother of the young griff, Aegon Targaryen. It would be poetic irony as to why Brynden would hate the Blackfyre bloodline so much and maybe explain as to why he wanted to raise Bran as his successor if he never had any true heirs from his bloodline.

  • Hampus den riktige Johannson

    I can just imagine bittersteel riding into combat with the tune of "Guess who's back, back again. Bittersteels' back, Tell a friend" playing in everyones head

  • Spencer
    Spencer 3 months ago +1

    Your videos and overall dialogue is sensible, impressive and entertaining. I hope you never stop with your videos. You have charisma my man! Keep it coming... I will never stop listening

  • Adam Montserrat
    Adam Montserrat 2 months ago +4

    If this is becomes a prequel. I could only imagine the amount of drama and politics. It'd be an Emmy material.

  • MegaKnight2012
    MegaKnight2012 6 months ago +1

    It would make too much sense if Serra, and possibly Viserys, are descended through the female Blackfyre line through Bittersteel. Bittersteel desired his sister Shiera (who bears a similar name to Serra, maybe Quaithe/Shiera was influential in Viserys and Serra's early life?), but Bittersteel eventually married his niece, a daughter of Daemon Blackfyre. So there's the female line of Daemon's combined with Bittersteel, the Golden Company's founder and another Targaryen Great Bastard who was in line for the Iron Throne.

  • Lavinia Clark
    Lavinia Clark 7 months ago +8

    This whole thing kind of reminds me of the war of the roses. Two different lines descended from a king fought over the English throne for thirty years, and it eventually ended when the two lines married into each other and became one.
    So I think that the Targaryen-Blackfyre conflict could possibly end with a marriage between Griff and Dany. It would lend legitimacy to both of them as monarchs.

  • delloco
    delloco 2 months ago +7

    I can't be the only one hoping King Charles has some bastards to legitimize for our entertainment.

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas Month ago +1

      I think we'll get a event similar to the Dance of the Dragons evolving King Charles and his heirs!

  • Severus Snape
    Severus Snape Year ago +2

    I think both the Blackfyre and Targaryens will die. Partially in irony, but also because they've fought each other since the creation of the Blackfyre's and will do so until one line is extinct, perhaps even both. What I think it will mean towards the story was that the Targaryens will mimic the Roman Empire: great at conquering, terrible at keeping what they have, and therefore bringing their downfall. While I believe Dany will kill off Young Griff's army and Young Griff, I think she'll have become part of the evil Azor Ahai, aka Jon Snow, is meant to bring an end to, though just as important as the Others.

  • LukasLambs
    LukasLambs Year ago +13

    Ngl I’d kinda love it if Young Gfriff ended up king, with or without Daenerys or Jon or anyone else. I think it would be a really cool twist and honestly not awful for the realm if he is truly as good as he is said to be.

  • Erik Johansson
    Erik Johansson Month ago

    Bloodraven's idea of "sacrificing honor to save the realm" remembered me of Jaime, when he stabbed Aerys through the back, killing the king he swore to protect, to save the city, throwing his honor in the mud in the process.

  • Charlotte
    Charlotte Month ago +2

    I wonder why Illyrio would be so good to Dany if it’s only for his ‘son’ to fight her later. Maybe he thought she wouldn’t make it? Or maybe it’s just good old-fashioned asoiaf betrayal.

  • Callum Barnes
    Callum Barnes Year ago +1

    I’ve always been fascinated by the blackfyre rebellions. So thanks so much for this vid 👍

  • Kilo Millensimus
    Kilo Millensimus Year ago +624

    I can't thank you enough for linking all those artists. I never take the time to find the fanart that gets used in people's videos, but I should. So much of it is awesome.

    • Tatowerty
      Tatowerty Year ago +22

      yeah, the quality of the fanart that they make is simply outstanding

  • Aditya Agarwal
    Aditya Agarwal Year ago +3

    "Dany is gonna want Aegon off of her chair."
    Why do so many people take this as fact? Dany only wants the throne because she thinks it's her birthright. Wouldn't she be happy to see that she has more living family?
    "You do not understand, ser," she said. "My mother died giving me birth, and my father and my brother Rhaegar even before that. would never known so much as their names if Viserys had not been there to tell me. He was the only one . The only one. He is all ."
    Her father had been slain before she was born, and her splendid brother Rhaegar as well. Her mother had died bringing her into the world while the storm screamed outside. Gentle Ser Willem , who must have loved her after a fashion, had been taken by a wasting sickness when she was very young. Her brother Viserys, Khal Drogo who was her sun-and-stars, even her unborn son, the gods had claimed them all. They will not have my dragons, Dany vowed. They will not.

    • Kree Lesley
      Kree Lesley 3 months ago

      he is a blackfyre, i dont think she would respect him as the civil war killed off a lot of targs lol sure they could reconcile but i doubt it. also jorah (or selmy cant remember) already explained that it wasnt aegon's birthright, he just had dragons. idk i think dany just rationalises her desire for the throne as a birthright. she could just want revenge and to sit on the throne again to prove her family cant be taken down

  • peyj
    peyj 7 months ago

    im in the middle of reading asos and struggling for motivation to read more due to a lot of the chapters being very similar to scenes in the show, but after this video i fell a huge boost in my drive to keep reading and reaching adwd and the prequel books maybe i'll finish all of them before twow. actually no. i'll definitely will finish before then. ill aim for the house of dragons release to finish them

  • Slim Rhyno
    Slim Rhyno 4 months ago

    This video was so well done! Thank you for making and sharing it!

  • Mouse
    Mouse 3 months ago +1

    I wonder what would have happened if the Blackfyre rebellion doesn't happen and the Blackfyres just become a cadet house of the Targaryens. How would that change things.. would they have tried helping house Reyne during the Reyne rebellion? Would they eventually have helped the Targaryens in the usurper war or would they have joined the Rebellions? Would they stay a minor house or would they have at some point become a larger major house of Westros like adding the stepstones to the Seven kingdoms or marrying into a house like the Lannisters or Baratheons

  • Uncommon Sense
    Uncommon Sense Year ago +325

    "The ends justifies the means" is usually code for someone who does evil for his own good. But damn, Bloodraven is an intriguing character.

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  • Despain
    Despain 3 months ago +5

    We really needed another 5-6 seasons of Game of Thrones. The entire Young Griff plotline is amazing.

  • sora roxas
    sora roxas Year ago +9

    No wonder george is having a hard time ending his books. Like every theory, every plot is important. How is he gonna wrap everything up?

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 3 months ago +3

      Being honest, I don't blame him for taking an eternity to finish the last 2 books!

  • James Eddleman
    James Eddleman 3 months ago +2

    Theory time! but I have to say, spoilers... cuz I feel like I'm spot on...
    Craster, who was giving boys to the Others... Little Sam was taken, but we had already seen the Others on the move/killing people right?
    I think the Others are "blue" seers, I think in the same way Bran can Greenseek.
    I think the Others saw Little Sam, their PRINCE that was PROMISED, being taken in a vision and tried to give warnings in the form of that symbol from the very beginning. (Others live long lives and don't really get how humans work when it comes to receiving information and passing it on.)
    I think when they, Others, were marching the army south, they had another vision of Sam taking the baby to the wall, and to that shack.
    They saw 1 weak fat boy, and decided "f*ck it" and just sent one dude to just freaking take the prince back. What they didn't see in their future sight, was that Sam had Dragon Glass from when he was digging a piss pit at the Fist of the First Men. Fatal mistakes made by non human characters with magic and with intelligence sounds just like George.
    Fast forward to the crappy season 8... how I think it should have gone down is some way or another Danny has to flee the north, they take Brand and Sam and Little Sam and Jon and Arya. They get to Kings landing, snow falling and growing more intense as Danny comes with her army. Cersei obviously wont let them in, even as the undead are seen slowly approaching the back lines. Super intense, does Danny burn down the gate and force her way into the city? omg but if they don't everyone will die to the undead! SO INTENSE TENSION RAMPING! she ends up doing it... she risks looking evil to the citizens inside (who arn't seeing the actual undead army and thanks to Cersei they don't even believe that the snow is related to the threat at hand.)
    The guards on the wall just let them in, seeing the real threat. Danny and Jon prepare for battle, commanding kings landing army now.
    Cersei is angry and well wants to "burn them all" And I've got a theory on this part too, Just dots but the lines connecting are weak... So Hodar kept saying the same thing for years. The Mad King was "saying the same thing he'd been saying for hours, burn them all." I wonder if blood-raven tried to ahead of time, wipe out Kings Landing using a blood relative to worg into. Idk why exactly but I think Blood Raven wanted to destroy the city, but thanks to his efforts all that "pig shit" under Kings Landing is now going to be used, maybe Bran knows this after merging with Blood Raven, and then comes up with the plan to draw the undead into the city and escape out the back, and then "burn them all."
    Make it more intense by having the Clegane bowl and Jamie vs Pirate going on, and all four of them kill each other but Arya comes in and steals Jamies face (she has 0 reason to like Jamie or any Lanister at all) She uses her skills to reach Cersei and for a second time, the back stab move to stop her from burning them all before the undead are in the city... or maybe Jamie lives and has to do it again... but this time killing his love, his sister.
    Either way, the end would be about the last royal incest couple, Jon and Danny, having to make a pact with the unstoppable Others, Just like Craster had done for YEARS and I cap that word cuz remember how long seasons last in this world? many years Craster was "saving the world" continuously... The watch thought he was mad and left him alone, even if Craster straight up said "To stop the winter, you have to give up your blood heirs." who do you think would actually believe him without also seeing the others take the babies? Craster was said to be a "godly man" in his own words really... I think Jon will have to plunge his fiery sword into his aunt... if you catch my drift, and they will be the first time that people understood and recorded what they HAVE to do to keep peace with the Others.

  • Choryllis
    Choryllis 9 months ago +2

    Since Game of Thrones is based on the War of the Roses, my crack theory is that Daenerys will marry Aegon to unite the two houses under one.
    Or for a more serious theory that involved Daenerys showing mercy to the Blackfyres, the two are going to resolve things peacefully, Daenerys will retreat to Dragonstone, she and Aegon will each marry different people, have children and then engage their children to each other to unite the houses.