thurman asked if Pacquiao does some asian stuff lol and claims he still Pacquiao wasnt the hardest he was hit, when he got hit with thr body shot his body was starting to fold
Perhaps Manny's feet in fast exchanges isn't noticeable. Even bradley said, normally in combinations the first and last shot was the hardest but with Manny every shot is hard. The main reason for that is his coordination, we all notice his fast hands but before he can throw a fast and hard punch his feet needs to be properly set to generate the power. Which means his feet needs to be a little faster than his hands and that calves really helped him do that. Even algieri mentioned that during the fight you'll notice his body is in an awkward position where most boxers isn't capable of throwing a good punch but somehow Pacquiao's punch still has that power. That's because he planted his feet fast that his opponent couldn't even notice. About garcia being good at planting his feet and moving his body to generate that torque, Pacquiao has also shown that in every fight just a faster execution like how he knocked out hatton.
Right! he wouldnβt be known as he was today if isnβt something u know. Thereβs super human thing in him just like Usain bolt. These kind of human are very rare lol what am i saying π
I think it's a combination of several things including wrist, fist size and bone density. It's mainly a result of the hard jobs he's done since he was a kid and punching wood as a kid without gloves or any protection. These made his bones thicker and his fists resistant to pain and breakage.
Read an article few years ago about Pacquiao's skeleton. His bones are fairly large, so even with a drained physique his bones are able to transfer more force to his arms. Typical of some races of people in Southeast Asia or pacific islands. Short, stocky, large wrists and head, almost comical in appearance but good for scrapping.
@Japorikiskiswa C damn! You are so right! Most of the filipinos where too short yet their bones were too thick! Ngl. You can see these kind of physiques everytime you went to some Market places.
Agree, Pacquaio shares the same genetics and phenotype as those people in the Philippines who can peel coconut with their teeth. He's from the same region of the juramentados, the moro swordsman, and the reason why the Americans invented the 1911 during the Filipino-American. Spain, Japan and US was not able to take a foothold on that region due to these amazing people with exceptional physique.
Take note, Pacquiao was not in his prime now. But still, fists of the Legend feels like a rock. Imagine if he fought him in Manny's prime. That bruised face of him will be converted to cuts like what happened to Dela Hoya, Margarito, Marquez, Cotto, etc. But still, kudos to this man for being a true warrior. He's a heck of an entertaining fighter. πͺ
i am a filipino and i like pac but i gave mayweather that fight. i am not sure why you keep insist that pac won that. mayweather clearly adjusted his game plan to pac. he learned how to neutralize the left by parrying after 5th round. you better watch again.
dint notice the wrists but hes got some big hands. thats the size of his heart a race horse heart he can keep fighting burst of energy much longer than anybody his height. ive met him before he had roach. ive seen him train in secret rooms in the dark complete with a ring.
2:29 tellin you a story why, pacman in his youngest age got into a lot of trouble with his brother in the streets. Whenever he's brother got into a trouble, they call pacman to reinforce. And it became a habit for pacman to punch a banana tree trunk almost everyday to make his fist stronger and immune to pain. Plus, he does it in a regular basis especially after watching his idols such as Tyson, Mexican champ Chavez and of course, Bruce Lee.
Pacquiao has calcified his fists like some martial artist who specialize on breaking hard objects. I am surprised more fighters are not doing it. Doing push-ups on your knuckles can start the process. The two biggest ones. You can also use a makiwata board.
In my opinion. The power of Pac comes from his legs. Among all the active boxers, Pacquiao has the biggest calves. Aside from that, he's living a healthy lifestyle to preserve the good condition of his body.
@RADROOK don't forget Ricky Hatton lol. I remembered ordering a Domino's and when it arrived 10 minutes after, the fight ended. I just wasted my $30 lol!
@Spiritcr1jsher True.. As he did to De La Hoya sending him into permanent retirement. But notice that it was the accumulation of punches that always seemed to lead to a TKO. As he also did with Margarito.
Thurman's legacy has been enhanced in defeat to Manny because he was humble afterwards and took his loss like a champion.Its how you come back that's important,not a loss against one of the best to ever do it.
His legacy is enhanced by losing To a 40+ year old manny because he took the loss like a man? Thatβs not how that works. It was a terrible loss for Keith.
Unlike other, Thurman is strong πͺmentally and physically .. He could really knock out Pacquiao playing dirty but Pacquiao is a generous kind man who came out of poverty and looks after the underprivileged people. Nobody would want to play dirty against a man like that. Thurman was simply playing games with Pacquiao in the early rounds. Unlike how does in every other fights, where he goes to destory his opponent,. He was not in the mood to do that with Pacquiao.
Danny got longer reach, making the punch push further and feels heavier. Pac's shorter reach can't bury the weight much, unless he launches his body weight in front with his good foot work.
Pac has one of the biggest wrist or if not biggest wrist for welterweights. His bones were denser that is why he was able to excel in 8 classes and carried his power.
Destiny Dilai My understanding is that punching power originates from the legs especially in a small fighter. Just look at Manny's legs and you can see. Also, Manny trains harder than any fighter these days with the exception of GGG who is also a big puncher.
I like both Manny and Keith but, it sure looked to me like Pac was really feeling those right hands to the head in the second half of the fight. Also Manny DID wear those sunglasses after the fight and his people were reported to have some concern of slurring or other effects while he was back in his room, to the point where they were looking at him the next day also for continued effects but he was reportedly back to his normal self at that point. Don't know if true or false, it's just what I heard.
Being honest against all odds and even your enemy put down some time, it will be your best asset in life and this is another step for Keith to be a great boxing analyst and commentator. Cannot way for you Keith.
Ya see keiths honest here...pac started out his career 40 lbs lighter than where he ended up...so to carry that crazy power up the weights was astounding...when you hear the phrase ' he punched above his weight ' ...well pacman punched 10x above his weight...you will not see the likes of that incredible fighter ever againππ₯π£π₯
pac has abnormal bone density...he has a heavyweight type bone structure...pacquiao's wrists are eight inches, and he's 5-6. The Pac Man's wrists are higher than the average boxer in the heavyweight division. Mike Tyson and Joe Louis had the same size wrists as pacquiao. sugar Shane Mosley's trainer Nazeem Richardson once said, βThe best trick pacquiao has pulled is making you believe he is smaller than you are.β Mosley, who is 2 1/2 inches taller than pacquiao, has a wrist size of only 6 1/4....now you know why pac's punches are like a rock.....
What kind of boxing fan wouldnβt be a fan of paquaio. Fought everybody in there prime from 126 on. All action. Throws many punches his footwork speed and power. You would have to be a hater to not like that guy and I was rooting hard against many against morales especially.
Eloquent, expressive and analytical. He really thinks through his responses and really mean what he says. I always enjoy his commentaries because I can almost see what he is describing in my mind....π
Danny hits harder because he plants his feet and makes use of his longer reach, he throws more power by that. Manny doesn't hit as much to his full capacity because he moves a lot as a smaller fighter with shorter reach. Thats why you see manny hit bags harder than when hes on the ring, when hes on the bag, he doesn't have to "leap" or reach as much. Hence why hes got more power with his feet planted
true but not just speed, short burst, explosive you can have speed without sting, but when you led it burst out like a volcano it adds more force and velocity to it. Much like Bruce Lee.
βTo be the best youβve got to beat the best..β and heβs still around watching.. legend has it, heβs still beating legendary fighters up to this day.. unlike the other fighter whoβs defeated lots of bums and truck drivers, perfect undefeated record indeed, again whatβs this guy name?
Garcia to me punches like George Foreman. The reason Pac's hand feel like bricks is because he punches the base of the heavy bag when he trains. Go check it out.
Nazeem Richardson said the same thing when manny was wrapping his hands for the Shane Mosley fight. He felt mannys punch on his hand and if he didnβt watch manny wrap his hands he wouldβve asked him to wrap them again
Here in the Philippines every boxing fan talks about it! Even wayback in Pacs early career. Its different at d same time wierd, most boxers are hard/heavy punchers but Mannys punch are painfull, it inflicts pain! maybe the way he delivers or snaps his punchesβΊ
Many times supposed welterweights said that Manny is not a power puncher or one of the hardest punchers in welter weight. However, it seems 100% of them agrees that he hits hard, although not that hard. Unfortunately, what they usually do not highlight much is that Manny is super fast and hits or punches almost at every angle. What that means is, One will most likely get beaten without them knowing what happened.
Simple that its the fruit of Manny's training since he was very young, its not just training plus his work lifting heavy stuffs,imagine how he got that 8 Divisions World Championπ€ its just shows how he's disciplined in terms of his trainings.
I think Thurmanβs analysis is kinda biased. He could have beat pacquiao. He had the youth, the size and the strength advantage. But clearly underestimated pacquiaoβs speed, punching power and footwork. Danny was a very formidable opponent and that fight could have gone both ways. But it was clear that Pacquiao gave Thurman a proper shellacking.
Keith is saying that part of the reason manny hits hard is bc of the gloves β¦then says Danny hits harderβ¦First off Reyes Gloves are common sense and know as a βPunchers Gloveβ. 2. Danny also wore Reyes gloves when he fough Keith so then that same energy he put towards Manny would as well apply towards Danny. But regardless of gloves Power is Power Speed is power.
I hate it when people say "The speed of these punches adds power" No!!! Speed is multiplying power and not just adding to it. Force = mass x speed squared So if the speed is 2 x faster, the force is not twice but 4 times greater.
In my opinion pac man just has insane lower body strength, have you seen his calves lol thatβs what he uses to generate power and he also has high bone density it seems like with his huge wrist
@Warwick W No Im not offended. Actually, there is nothing offensive about what you said. I was just wondering why out of nowhere you just mentioned mayweather jr while these guys are not even talking about him? Im like WTF! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
@Claude Reyes You sound very angry, I didnβt mean to hurt your feelings lol - Iβm just comparing Floyd to Thurman. Floyd won after disrespecting Pacquiao π
I know the uploader is a Pacquiao fan, but the video ended way too early. I wanted to hear what Kieth had to finish saying. That said, It's a wonder why Thurman isn't at the top and undefeated. The guy has incredible knowledge. He definitely needs a high-paying, steady job as a boxing analyst.
Watch Naazim Richardson interview when he fought Mosley. He asked manny to punch his hand while manny wrapping his hand and he said his punch is really hard.. and manny has an 8 inch wrist like those heavy weight π
@xpact Manny was never an 8 division champion. But since you think so, go ahead and tell me which sanctioning body belts (WBA,WBC,IBF,WBO) he won at 126 &140. It's really gonna hurt when you find out your idol is a media creation. You also want to somehow punish Floyd because he never lost or gave away his god given talents. He owned Manny, made the most money and for good measure beat todays #1 p4p fighter Canelo very easily. Move along or I'll just keep hitting you with more facts. π
Hatton: "Same move everytime" - Didn't saw his punch coming De La Hoya: "I'm faster than him" - Literally can't keep up Margaritto: "He has no power" - His face got swollen Bradley: "I can take whatever's coming" - He throws like he has 8 arms Thurman: "His age will weaken and slow him down" - Had his first lost yeah he's a freak of nature alright
I agree with the analysis of Danny. Thats a punching style many Philly guys use. The leverage and torque generated from that style is POWERFUL. They land a few punches and you're like hello!
I believe it has to do with the hand wraps as well some trainers know how to double even triple stack and when u sweat it becomes like plaster over ur knuckles !
The reason why Pacquiao doesn't hit as hard as he was in lower weight is two folds: 1. Coming from flyweight to welterweight just means---he's fighting way bigger fighters ergo fighters with much better punch resistance. 2. T-rex arms---Because of his shorter reach, he barely plants his feet when delivering blows anymore, he has to jump around in and out so that he could reach his opponent. *Watch him fight fighters with similar arm length like David Diaz, Ricky Hatton, Lucas Matthyse etc .. Where he could plant his feet more and you feel how heavy and powerful his punches are.
Keith was Born on November 23 1988 Calculating his personality as an Astrologer Keith is Very Good in Analyzing things since he is 'Part Scorpio and Sagittarius and combine it with he's Year of the Dragon,a Perfectionist guy with the Power of Luck ,as his sign signifies LUCK as a Dragon....Saludos! ππ
Thurman specifies "Garcia isn't even a real welterweight," yet he doesn't say Pacquiao, who was reported at least twice to walk at 141lbs outside of training camp, isn't even a real welterweight? btw, x-vid.net/video/CDAQw2YLMA0/video.html proves Pacquiao doesn't load his gloves and he just has heavy hands. He told Nazim Richardson to watch him wrap his hands, then punched Nazim's hand without gloves on for Nazim to compare his power, and Nazim said if he hadn't seen Pac wrap his hand, he would've suspected Pac loaded something in it too. *BTW, GARCIA WORE REYES GLOVES WHILE FIGHTING YOU, THURMAN...* it's Pac, not the gloves, not the wraps... Thurman, stop spreading rumors already. Pac hurt you, end of story. Stop spreading these rumors about his suspicious heavy hands. why don't u talk about how a 141lbs guy can fight welters that come down from 170-180lbs? no amount of plaster can help any 140 pounder beat a welterweight, but pac does it clean. he just has awesome punching technique, power, and impact integrity. and gosh, if thurman doesn't know about this, somebody who can get to him tell him for gods sake. how do u interviewers not know this or never tell thurman (that interview has over 1 million views)??? Nazim literally said he would've suspected pac too if he didn't see pac wrap his hands, and tested pac's punch without gloves. thurman's gotta stop spreading rumors.
@Tla bro i think u overthinking the shit lol yeah he got surprised by the mythical power of pacman to the point he is tyring to figure the shit out till this day. thought that was a complement.
Get off Pac's sack. The guy says another guy hits harder than the other guy. He fought both but believes one guy hits harder than the other. Now a guy writes an entire paragraph/book to discredit Thurman. Never fought Pac or Garcia, but knows how the punches feel. Too many fanboys!
@rose black yep, he never made an actual claim that pac cheated, only hinted. in this clip, he is clearly trying to move away from his wraps controversy. now he's focused on "something" giving pac heavy hands, but not illegal.
@Tla ah i see what you're saying. he didn't outright claim pacquiao cheated but when given the opportunity, he didn't deny the possibility that he cheated either and then differed to atlas who has always accused pacquiao of taking PEDs. the better way to handle it would have been to say "while it is not my job to test for these things, i have no evidence/no reason to believe that pac uses PEDs. he beat me fair and square." or something like that
@rose black one of the times was something to do with teddy atlas i think. other ones were with youtube boxing channels. he said he had time to think about it and that's why he didn't mention the wraps right after the fight. the videos are hard to find cause the topic isn't in the titles. you'll come across them eventually if they're recommended. *found the article excerpt insinuating PED/wraps:* βListen, I did not regulate any form of testing in that fight,β Thurman exclusively told World Boxing News. βHe did do the majority of his training camp in the Philippines, and his hands felt like cement, so, Teddy, you tell me! βMy focus is on how to train and show up. Teddy sounds like he knows a few more things about the industry than I do. btw x-vid.net/video/gXJtIf7kw-E/video.html this is what thurman sounds like when he was giving credit in phase 1. it's completely different so it's clear as day. saying that he was being ambiguous doesn't help with the difference in his words. this clip is what giving credit looks like. the other ones in phase 2 and 3 sound completely different.
I forgot what round it was in the Thurman v Garcia fight, but there was this one punch where Garcia hot Thurman so hard and so clean, that I was shocked that Thurman took it
Difference is Keith was in his prime when he fought a 40yo Pac who was well past his prime. Keith wouldβve received the same beating Cotto got of it was a prime Pac.
Not the hardest pick he ever felt? But when was the last time you saw Thurman hit so hard he fell or doubled over and had to take his mouth piece out after a punch. During the Danny fight did Thurman do ANY of those things.
Please.. Danny and Gennady Golovkin can punch harder than Manny and they still have slimmer calves than Manny. Power does not majority come from calve muscle. Wake up people stop living in delusional world.
Floyd said the same thing. Some fighters just got that thump in they fists. That wit Pacβs weird angles will feel like something crazy hit u. Floyd said it, Tim Bradley said it, everybody said it lmao. Thurman lost coz he thought Manny was too old. If he wouldve listened to Pacβs old opponents he wouldve been more careful in there but his ego got him beat. Pac put them paws on him & he couldnt believe how the power felt. By the time he got his confidence back it was too late. Pac was already way ahead in the cards & still got his second wind in him.
Ugas should fight Ortiz. It will be the perfect test for Ortiz whose beating up decent but not top names. It would also show if Ortiz is ready for the champs - Personally feel like he gets punched to much and against someone like Crawford or Spence he would probably be dropped if not stopped. However, he's still has growing to do.
It's the lack of class that can separate great sporting icons. Losing your undefeated status to a hall of fame legend who is a 7 weight devision champion isn't going to ruin your legacy Thurman, but not being respectful will
@Dancing Diva But what did he say that's downplaying it? Your explanation explained nothing, saying someones punches feel like a small brick hitting you is the opposite of downplaying it??
@GldStandrd Yea dude I'm notbsaying that he picks fights but being undefeated it's in the back of your mind, Mind you he was the favorite against the Pacman fight. I just want him from now on gun for the top everytime.
Dude will have a real good career being a boxing/combat sports commentator or a trainer.
I think Thurman is going to be a hell of a trainer one day! He can break things down so intricately and explains so well.
@Osama Bin Laden you are a princess
and analyst
@Job Sabado PacMan also has a lot of volume and speed. Many small rocks can be devastating if they hit you at the right places at the right time.
thurman asked if Pacquiao does some asian stuff lol and claims he still Pacquiao wasnt the hardest he was hit, when he got hit with thr body shot his body was starting to fold
@Jojo Bagito Edi wow
Perhaps Manny's feet in fast exchanges isn't noticeable.
Even bradley said, normally in combinations the first and last shot was the hardest but with Manny every shot is hard.
The main reason for that is his coordination, we all notice his fast hands but before he can throw a fast and hard punch his feet needs to be properly set to generate the power. Which means his feet needs to be a little faster than his hands and that calves really helped him do that.
Even algieri mentioned that during the fight you'll notice his body is in an awkward position where most boxers isn't capable of throwing a good punch but somehow Pacquiao's punch still has that power.
That's because he planted his feet fast that his opponent couldn't even notice.
About garcia being good at planting his feet and moving his body to generate that torque, Pacquiao has also shown that in every fight just a faster execution like how he knocked out hatton.
One of the best explanation.
Right! he wouldnβt be known as he was today if isnβt something u know. Thereβs super human thing in him just like Usain bolt. These kind of human are very rare lol what am i saying π
Damn bro π³
lol you're gonna be a good boxing analyst
Get yo ass on TV and start calling fights!!! That was perfect
Keith THurman gonna be a good analyst after his career
Yes, very true
Only thing heβd be good at, criticizing fighters better than him π
Him and porter would make a good show together
@Joji Velasco he did well against pacquiao
@SeekYour Truth Sike you tripping
He didnβt lose to a 40 year old
He lost to a legend
I think it's a combination of several things including wrist, fist size and bone density. It's mainly a result of the hard jobs he's done since he was a kid and punching wood as a kid without gloves or any protection. These made his bones thicker and his fists resistant to pain and breakage.
plus the cleto reyes gloves has no padding which means he's almost punching bare handed that's might be the reason why it feels like a brick
Now you knowπ how manny is a great fighter
Read an article few years ago about Pacquiao's skeleton. His bones are fairly large, so even with a drained physique his bones are able to transfer more force to his arms.
Typical of some races of people in Southeast Asia or pacific islands. Short, stocky, large wrists and head, almost comical in appearance but good for scrapping.
And here are haters saying pacman was on roids and peds lol
@John Calingasan Filipinos are also to longest free divers in the world...17 minutes....spleens are double the size...
@Japorikiskiswa C damn! You are so right! Most of the filipinos where too short yet their bones were too thick! Ngl. You can see these kind of physiques everytime you went to some Market places.
Agree, Pacquaio shares the same genetics and phenotype as those people in the Philippines who can peel coconut with their teeth. He's from the same region of the juramentados, the moro swordsman, and the reason why the Americans invented the 1911 during the Filipino-American. Spain, Japan and US was not able to take a foothold on that region due to these amazing people with exceptional physique.
Take note, Pacquiao was not in his prime now. But still, fists of the Legend feels like a rock. Imagine if he fought him in Manny's prime. That bruised face of him will be converted to cuts like what happened to Dela Hoya, Margarito, Marquez, Cotto, etc.
But still, kudos to this man for being a true warrior. He's a heck of an entertaining fighter. πͺ
Peds
Pacquiao's wrists are the same size as Mike Tyson's. Let that sink in.
@MrBadintentionss just reading the thread cause got nothing else to do right now. Lol but this is such an easy excuse. βπΌπ just saying! Peace!
i am a filipino and i like pac but i gave mayweather that fight. i am not sure why you keep insist that pac won that. mayweather clearly adjusted his game plan to pac. he learned how to neutralize the left by parrying after 5th round. you better watch again.
Wrists don't ko you
dint notice the wrists but hes got some big hands. thats the size of his heart a race horse heart he can keep fighting burst of energy much longer than anybody his height. ive met him before he had roach. ive seen him train in secret rooms in the dark complete with a ring.
@MrBadintentionss shame that floyd ducked manny and cried steroids without proof for 6 years
2:29 tellin you a story why, pacman in his youngest age got into a lot of trouble with his brother in the streets. Whenever he's brother got into a trouble, they call pacman to reinforce. And it became a habit for pacman to punch a banana tree trunk almost everyday to make his fist stronger and immune to pain. Plus, he does it in a regular basis especially after watching his idols such as Tyson, Mexican champ Chavez and of course, Bruce Lee.
Pacquiao has calcified his fists like some martial artist who specialize on breaking hard objects. I am surprised more fighters are not doing it. Doing push-ups on your knuckles can start the process. The two biggest ones. You can also use a makiwata board.
So far he's a good analyst but his arrogance that he showed for Pacquiao before didn't work that's why his career nowadays is emotionally affected.
In my opinion. The power of Pac comes from his legs. Among all the active boxers, Pacquiao has the biggest calves. Aside from that, he's living a healthy lifestyle to preserve the good condition of his body.
@RADROOK don't forget Ricky Hatton lol. I remembered ordering a Domino's and when it arrived 10 minutes after, the fight ended. I just wasted my $30 lol!
Absolutely right, his footwork channels his momentum through his waist to his torso. His deltoids and pecs help.
True, the legs will add power to a punch by leveraging the boxer's entire body-weight into it.
@Spiritcr1jsher True.. As he did to De La Hoya sending him into permanent retirement. But notice that it was the accumulation of punches that always seemed to lead to a TKO. As he also did with Margarito.
@RADROOK not power? Guy has a crap load of knockouts and seems to turn his opponents faces into hamburger meat.
Thurman's legacy has been enhanced in defeat to Manny because he was humble afterwards and took his loss like a champion.Its how you come back that's important,not a loss against one of the best to ever do it.
@Old Ironsides SD loss to a legend ain't bad
His legacy is enhanced by losing
To a 40+ year old manny because he took the loss like a man?
Thatβs not how that works. It was a terrible loss for Keith.
Unlike other, Thurman is strong πͺmentally and physically .. He could really knock out Pacquiao playing dirty but Pacquiao is a generous kind man who came out of poverty and looks after the underprivileged people. Nobody would want to play dirty against a man like that.
Thurman was simply playing games with Pacquiao in the early rounds.
Unlike how does in every other fights, where he goes to destory his opponent,. He was not in the mood to do that with Pacquiao.
I love this man's analogies! So articulate in his examples.
This was an excellent analysis, i always respected Keith Thurmans honesty as a fighter! hope he gets back to where he left off!
Danny got longer reach, making the punch push further and feels heavier.
Pac's shorter reach can't bury the weight much, unless he launches his body weight in front with his good foot work.
Pac has one of the biggest wrist or if not biggest wrist for welterweights. His bones were denser that is why he was able to excel in 8 classes and carried his power.
@Florida Storm Partly true but bone density in the wrist probably the biggest factor along with speed - speed x mass = power
@Destiny DILAINC For Americans yes, but for Filipinos its normal to have muscular calves...
Destiny Dilai
My understanding is that punching power originates from the legs especially in a small fighter. Just look at Manny's legs and you can see. Also, Manny trains harder than any fighter these days with the exception of GGG who is also a big puncher.
I like both Manny and Keith but, it sure looked to me like Pac was really feeling those right hands to the head in the second half of the fight. Also Manny DID wear those sunglasses after the fight and his people were reported to have some concern of slurring or other effects while he was back in his room, to the point where they were looking at him the next day also for continued effects but he was reportedly back to his normal self at that point. Don't know if true or false, it's just what I heard.
This Man should be a boxing commentator or analyst and should never leave the World of Boxing even if he retires. 100%
Being honest against all odds and even your enemy put down some time, it will be your best asset in life and this is another step for Keith to be a great boxing analyst and commentator. Cannot way for you Keith.
Ya see keiths honest here...pac started out his career 40 lbs lighter than where he ended up...so to carry that crazy power up the weights was astounding...when you hear the phrase ' he punched above his weight ' ...well pacman punched 10x above his weight...you will not see the likes of that incredible fighter ever againππ₯π£π₯
Much respect Keith a true warrior speaking the truth
pac has abnormal bone density...he has a heavyweight type bone structure...pacquiao's wrists are eight inches, and he's 5-6. The Pac Man's wrists are higher than the average boxer in the heavyweight division. Mike Tyson and Joe Louis had the same size wrists as pacquiao. sugar Shane Mosley's trainer Nazeem Richardson once said, βThe best trick pacquiao has pulled is making you believe he is smaller than you are.β Mosley, who is 2 1/2 inches taller than pacquiao, has a wrist size of only 6 1/4....now you know why pac's punches are like a rock.....
What kind of boxing fan wouldnβt be a fan of paquaio. Fought everybody in there prime from 126 on. All action. Throws many punches his footwork speed and power.
You would have to be a hater to not like that guy and I was rooting hard against many against morales especially.
heard his wrists and hands have fused.
@Marvin Williams todorov still whooped floyd
@ααααα stfu π€·πΎββοΈ
@Marvin Williams butthurt?
Even though Keith trashtalked Manny Pacquiao...he still gave our champ a fight before so I respect him for his honesty β€οΈ
Eloquent, expressive and analytical. He really thinks through his responses and really mean what he says. I always enjoy his commentaries because I can almost see what he is describing in my mind....π
Danny hits harder because he plants his feet and makes use of his longer reach, he throws more power by that. Manny doesn't hit as much to his full capacity because he moves a lot as a smaller fighter with shorter reach. Thats why you see manny hit bags harder than when hes on the ring, when hes on the bag, he doesn't have to "leap" or reach as much. Hence why hes got more power with his feet planted
The reason why the punches of Pacquiao feels like bricks is because of how fast he can punch
The speed of these punches adds power
true but not just speed, short burst, explosive you can have speed without sting, but when you led it burst out like a volcano it adds more force and velocity to it. Much like Bruce Lee.
The thing is his speed kills,speed plus good timing plus good accuracy becomes into a dangerous punch,dont matter if u big or small
βTo be the best youβve got to beat the best..β and heβs still around watching..
legend has it, heβs still beating legendary fighters up to this day..
unlike the other fighter whoβs defeated lots of bums and truck drivers, perfect undefeated record indeed, again whatβs this guy name?
Whatchu mean?
This guy is in his prime.His last fight was 2yrs ago. I remember when the best fought 2-3x a yr
"Manny Pacquiao's punches were like bullets. When he missed, I would hear a snap." -Tim Bradley Jr.
I used to not like this dude, but after the Pacquiao fight, Thurman earned my respect.
Respect for what? It was obvious that manny's gonna slow down and that age is gonna show up. Thurman didn't do shit what you talking about?
Had he beat him, you would not be saying that.
You know you getting whooped when a guy hit u and you say"damn was that a rock" πͺ¨ π₯
Imagine pacquiao move down to his natural weight class between lightweight and junior welterweight..
We will see trees goin down..
Pac
@Henry yes but imagine the speed
Going lower in weight does not equal more power mate
He would kill tank lmao
bruh he would be fighting guys like Loma, Teofimo, Tank. No one would step up π
Garcia to me punches like George Foreman. The reason Pac's hand feel like bricks is because he punches the base of the heavy bag when he trains. Go check it out.
Nazeem Richardson said the same thing when manny was wrapping his hands for the Shane Mosley fight. He felt mannys punch on his hand and if he didnβt watch manny wrap his hands he wouldβve asked him to wrap them again
Of all the recent welters, I always thought DSG's left hook was the scariest of all of them. He puts everything into it and he's snappy with it too.
But sadly , it's all that he got.
He knows all punches weight and speed that he delivered and received.. And how to reply and defend.. It's complicated sometimes
Here in the Philippines every boxing fan talks about it! Even wayback in Pacs early career. Its different at d same time wierd, most boxers are hard/heavy punchers but Mannys punch are painfull, it inflicts pain! maybe the way he delivers or snaps his punchesβΊ
Many times supposed welterweights said that Manny is not a power puncher or one of the hardest punchers in welter weight. However, it seems 100% of them agrees that he hits hard, although not that hard. Unfortunately, what they usually do not highlight much is that Manny is super fast and hits or punches almost at every angle. What that means is, One will most likely get beaten without them knowing what happened.
Simple that its the fruit of Manny's training since he was very young, its not just training plus his work lifting heavy stuffs,imagine how he got that 8 Divisions World Championπ€ its just shows how he's disciplined in terms of his trainings.
You may have lost to manny but we love you Mr. Thurman, so much respect from us filipinos.. you fought well.
Can't wait to see his return, hopefully better than before.
When you feel your opponentβs hands are hard as a Rock, you know you are in deep trouble.
I think Thurmanβs analysis is kinda biased. He could have beat pacquiao. He had the youth, the size and the strength advantage. But clearly underestimated pacquiaoβs speed, punching power and footwork. Danny was a very formidable opponent and that fight could have gone both ways. But it was clear that Pacquiao gave Thurman a proper shellacking.
I want Danny to make a comeback. Boriquaβs always pack a hard punchπ₯π₯π¨
Keith is saying that part of the reason manny hits hard is bc of the gloves β¦then says Danny hits harderβ¦First off Reyes Gloves are common sense and know as a βPunchers Gloveβ.
2. Danny also wore Reyes gloves when he fough Keith so then that same energy he put towards Manny would as well apply towards Danny. But regardless of gloves Power is Power Speed is power.
He learnt his lesson the hard way but he did learn.
I hate it when people say "The speed of these punches adds power"
No!!! Speed is multiplying power and not just adding to it.
Force = mass x speed squared
So if the speed is 2 x faster, the force is not twice but 4 times greater.
In my opinion pac man just has insane lower body strength, have you seen his calves lol thatβs what he uses to generate power and he also has high bone density it seems like with his huge wrist
Thurman went from calling Pacquiao a T rexx arms to calling his fist bricks π€£
@Warwick W No Im not offended. Actually, there is nothing offensive about what you said. I was just wondering why out of nowhere you just mentioned mayweather jr while these guys are not even talking about him? Im like WTF! π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
@Claude Reyes You sound very angry, I didnβt mean to hurt your feelings lol - Iβm just comparing Floyd to Thurman. Floyd won after disrespecting Pacquiao π
@Warwick W what the fuck are you saying?! They are not even talking about mayweather!
That shows you how great Floyd is, he trash talked Pacquiao and beat him easily π
Haha! Yeah.
Boxers are in my book, always the most interesting athletes to listen and talk to.
I respect that Keith said that Ugas would be the best fight. He could've said the weakest fighter but he said the strongest of the 3.
I know the uploader is a Pacquiao fan, but the video ended way too early. I wanted to hear what Kieth had to finish saying. That said, It's a wonder why Thurman isn't at the top and undefeated. The guy has incredible knowledge. He definitely needs a high-paying, steady job as a boxing analyst.
Watch Naazim Richardson interview when he fought Mosley. He asked manny to punch his hand while manny wrapping his hand and he said his punch is really hard.. and manny has an 8 inch wrist like those heavy weight π
@xpact Manny was never an 8 division champion. But since you think so, go ahead and tell me which sanctioning body belts (WBA,WBC,IBF,WBO) he won at 126 &140. It's really gonna hurt when you find out your idol is a media creation. You also want to somehow punish Floyd because he never lost or gave away his god given talents. He owned Manny, made the most money and for good measure beat todays #1 p4p fighter Canelo very easily. Move along or I'll just keep hitting you with more facts. π
@Bryan Yambao clinching isnβt hugging. Floyd would tie him up so he doesnβt fight on the inside. It also makes your opponent tired
@Earl Ferry yes its true. Again please read my post and understand each number or elaborate. Thanks :)
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@Blue Ocean 50 fights 23 world champs beat em all you forgot that fact
Hatton: "Same move everytime" - Didn't saw his punch coming
De La Hoya: "I'm faster than him" - Literally can't keep up
Margaritto: "He has no power" - His face got swollen
Bradley: "I can take whatever's coming" - He throws like he has 8 arms
Thurman: "His age will weaken and slow him down" - Had his first lost
yeah he's a freak of nature alright
I agree with the analysis of Danny. Thats a punching style many Philly guys use. The leverage and torque generated from that style is POWERFUL. They land a few punches and you're like hello!
Agreed thurman! The really advantage of Pacuiao is the speed and volume of punches... You can see the face of his opponents after fightπππ
Keith , Roy Jones and Holyfield can really break down the elements of the fight game very well.
Roy tells it like it is though.
Bruh, he learned so much when he fought pacman, He train his foot work all 24/7
Pacman's punch not that harder but I believe it damages a lot inside the body. I always notice Pacman's opponents bleed.
Nazim Richardson already discussed pacs hands saw n felt pacs power after wraps dudes just literally built different not the gloves
Remember that thurman only fought once every 5yrs lol so pacquiao felt even harder ..errol actually stays active even after a life n death situation
Love Thurman. He's super entertaining! Shout out 2 Danny! We always hit hard over here in Philly!
I believe it has to do with the hand wraps as well some trainers know how to double even triple stack and when u sweat it becomes like plaster over ur knuckles !
The reason why Pacquiao doesn't hit as hard as he was in lower weight is two folds:
1. Coming from flyweight to welterweight just means---he's fighting way bigger fighters ergo fighters with much better punch resistance.
2. T-rex arms---Because of his shorter reach, he barely plants his feet when delivering blows anymore, he has to jump around in and out so that he could reach his opponent.
*Watch him fight fighters with similar arm length like David Diaz, Ricky Hatton, Lucas Matthyse etc .. Where he could plant his feet more and you feel how heavy and powerful his punches are.
Keith was Born on November 23 1988
Calculating his personality as an Astrologer
Keith is Very Good in Analyzing things since he is 'Part Scorpio and Sagittarius and combine it with he's Year of the Dragon,a Perfectionist guy with the Power of Luck ,as his sign signifies LUCK as a Dragon....Saludos! ππ
βDid they do some Asian stuff???β Keith kills me π€£
Thurman specifies "Garcia isn't even a real welterweight," yet he doesn't say Pacquiao, who was reported at least twice to walk at 141lbs outside of training camp, isn't even a real welterweight?
btw, x-vid.net/video/CDAQw2YLMA0/video.html proves Pacquiao doesn't load his gloves and he just has heavy hands. He told Nazim Richardson to watch him wrap his hands, then punched Nazim's hand without gloves on for Nazim to compare his power, and Nazim said if he hadn't seen Pac wrap his hand, he would've suspected Pac loaded something in it too.
*BTW, GARCIA WORE REYES GLOVES WHILE FIGHTING YOU, THURMAN...* it's Pac, not the gloves, not the wraps...
Thurman, stop spreading rumors already. Pac hurt you, end of story. Stop spreading these rumors about his suspicious heavy hands. why don't u talk about how a 141lbs guy can fight welters that come down from 170-180lbs? no amount of plaster can help any 140 pounder beat a welterweight, but pac does it clean. he just has awesome punching technique, power, and impact integrity.
and gosh, if thurman doesn't know about this, somebody who can get to him tell him for gods sake. how do u interviewers not know this or never tell thurman (that interview has over 1 million views)??? Nazim literally said he would've suspected pac too if he didn't see pac wrap his hands, and tested pac's punch without gloves. thurman's gotta stop spreading rumors.
@Tla bro i think u overthinking the shit lol yeah he got surprised by the mythical power of pacman to the point he is tyring to figure the shit out till this day. thought that was a complement.
Get off Pac's sack. The guy says another guy hits harder than the other guy. He fought both but believes one guy hits harder than the other. Now a guy writes an entire paragraph/book to discredit Thurman. Never fought Pac or Garcia, but knows how the punches feel. Too many fanboys!
@rose black yep, he never made an actual claim that pac cheated, only hinted. in this clip, he is clearly trying to move away from his wraps controversy. now he's focused on "something" giving pac heavy hands, but not illegal.
@Tla ah i see what you're saying. he didn't outright claim pacquiao cheated but when given the opportunity, he didn't deny the possibility that he cheated either and then differed to atlas who has always accused pacquiao of taking PEDs. the better way to handle it would have been to say "while it is not my job to test for these things, i have no evidence/no reason to believe that pac uses PEDs. he beat me fair and square." or something like that
@rose black one of the times was something to do with teddy atlas i think. other ones were with youtube boxing channels. he said he had time to think about it and that's why he didn't mention the wraps right after the fight.
the videos are hard to find cause the topic isn't in the titles. you'll come across them eventually if they're recommended.
*found the article excerpt insinuating PED/wraps:*
βListen, I did not regulate any form of testing in that fight,β Thurman exclusively told World Boxing News.
βHe did do the majority of his training camp in the Philippines, and his hands felt like cement, so, Teddy, you tell me!
βMy focus is on how to train and show up. Teddy sounds like he knows a few more things about the industry than I do.
btw x-vid.net/video/gXJtIf7kw-E/video.html this is what thurman sounds like when he was giving credit in phase 1. it's completely different so it's clear as day. saying that he was being ambiguous doesn't help with the difference in his words. this clip is what giving credit looks like. the other ones in phase 2 and 3 sound completely different.
Keith is a Hall if fame fighter. Guy is underrated as all hell. One of the p4p best imo. Needs to fight more though and soon
Has Thurman ever seen Pac hit those heavy punching bags in training? He's probably holding back til he gets in the ring.
What's funny is he said that about Danny Garcia when Spence was going to fight him. We all seen how dominant Spence was over Danny.
I forgot what round it was in the Thurman v Garcia fight, but there was this one punch where Garcia hot Thurman so hard and so clean, that I was shocked that Thurman took it
Can I hear the truthβ¦was Thurman injured significantly prior to the PAC fight?.
I expected Thurman to win.
pacquiaos hand were molded because of the hardships he endured during his early life.. π΅π
Pacquiao's footwork are optimized for speed but if he plants his feet at the right time you're catching a big one.
Keith thurman will be a great boxing commentator and analyst π₯π₯
Less padding. More effective power. The Maidana effect π₯
I still like Thurman I think injuries kinda offset his rise
Simple campeΓ³n en 8 categorΓas Pacman.
Difference is Keith was in his prime when he fought a 40yo Pac who was well past his prime. Keith wouldβve received the same beating Cotto got of it was a prime Pac.
Not the hardest pick he ever felt? But when was the last time you saw Thurman hit so hard he fell or doubled over and had to take his mouth piece out after a punch. During the Danny fight did Thurman do ANY of those things.
Hard not to like Thurman, when he's in his humble mode. He's very articulate and will make a great boxing commentator IMO when he retires
I can't believe he never suspect Manny's legendary calves. That's where the power is harnessed.
Whatβs the βlegendβ behind the calves can we hear it? π
Why is it that everything with pacquiao is legendary. Legendary calves. What next? Legendary β¦
Please.. Danny and Gennady Golovkin can punch harder than Manny and they still have slimmer calves than Manny. Power does not majority come from calve muscle. Wake up people stop living in delusional world.
yeah i think a lot of Manny's punching power comes from those calves and the way he just creates so much force by using them is truly one of a kind
Therman is just jealous he got knocked down.
Dropped you once and have you removing ur mouth guard and running while gasping for air.. Stop looking looking excuses..
Floyd said the same thing. Some fighters just got that thump in they fists. That wit Pacβs weird angles will feel like something crazy hit u. Floyd said it, Tim Bradley said it, everybody said it lmao. Thurman lost coz he thought Manny was too old. If he wouldve listened to Pacβs old opponents he wouldve been more careful in there but his ego got him beat. Pac put them paws on him & he couldnt believe how the power felt. By the time he got his confidence back it was too late. Pac was already way ahead in the cards & still got his second wind in him.
the danny vs keith fight looked like someone was about to get their heads chopped off with the punches being thrown.
Damn thats a classic that earned both of them great respect
Same with Keith vs Porter
Titty rub.. The whole vid.π
Agree.
Ugas should fight Ortiz. It will be the perfect test for Ortiz whose beating up decent but not top names.
It would also show if Ortiz is ready for the champs - Personally feel like he gets punched to much and against someone like Crawford or Spence he would probably be dropped if not stopped. However, he's still has growing to do.
Cmon Keith, That body shot that Manny landed on you looked like that was one of the hardest shots you ever took.
Big fan of thurman...love listening to him..really good boxer
Pac's punch is really like a rock since its faster than most of the boxers.
It's the lack of class that can separate great sporting icons. Losing your undefeated status to a hall of fame legend who is a 7 weight devision champion isn't going to ruin your legacy Thurman, but not being respectful will
Now you know. that's why he's the GOAT.
Had a feeling he was gonna say Danny hits harder
I mean Danny is way bigger bro walks around at almost 170
@Dancing Diva I'm the slow one but you haven't once explained how he's downplaying it... okay buddy...
@Dancing Diva But what did he say that's downplaying it? Your explanation explained nothing, saying someones punches feel like a small brick hitting you is the opposite of downplaying it??
@Dancing Diva So where does he downplay his power?
@Dancing Diva Where does he downplay pacquiao's power? A small brick is still a brick.
Imagine if he fought a prime pacquiao
Keith is underated .. he is a genious in the sport of boxing .. i believe in you keith!
Since he's no longer undefeated, I hope Keith fights the best matches available and not pick easy fights.
@GldStandrd man biggest fight of his career he lost. He not on that elite level.
@GldStandrd Yea dude I'm notbsaying that he picks fights but being undefeated it's in the back of your mind, Mind you he was the favorite against the Pacman fight. I just want him from now on gun for the top everytime.
Keith has a solid resume though